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Jazzepi will be taking over the administration duties of Kingmaker until further notice.
My day has consisted of boarding up windows, packing, helping my 84 year old neighbor prepare her house, etc. for a possible round two with Mother Nature.

All sub requests etc. should be given to Jazzepi.

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Good Luck and come back healthy!
:)

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Good luck XIetor! We await your return.

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Stay safe, Xietor!

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I wanted to say smth rude about football delay, but I will just say that - do not break your own rules again.

And good luck over there. And think building 'normal' houses over there. You know, bricks and stone.

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The football thing was a joke. The llamaserver was down for 48h in any case, so Xietor thought about giving it a reason, instead of having to blame technical dificulties. :D

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Oh, it looked serious :) I was away for 3 days so I thought it was posted before llamaserver announced server going down.

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Thanks for the well wishes. I made it safely to Dallas!

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I want hammers.

For each hammer, I will give 11 earth gems, and one item (that I can forge), at *0.6 cost. I have a shortage of earth mages, see.

So, for example, for 6W6F and a Hammer, I would give 11E and a Rune Smasher. I can make most stuff but not everything. If you want blood items I'll take gems instead of blood slaves, 1 gem for 2 blood slaves.

I'd also be very keen to rent a robe of the magi from someone so I can make rings of sorcery/wizardry.

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I guess with the number of players reduced to almost the size of a normal large mp game we can dispense with the trading house thread?

I see from the score tables 5 races with over 50 provinces, with a couple knocking on the door to 60. LA Agartha research is off the charts, and in combination with other factors,
would have to be considered the leader.

But the game is not close to finished. To my knowledge, no race has anywhere close to 15 capitals, though i may get Llamabeast to post the number of capitals the 5 leaders have at
turn 50.

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As the neighbors of LA Tien Chi now know, Ruin, the presence of whom makes all sane beings tremble, gated himself into the heart of LA Tien Chi's land in an effort to save some rare artifacts of Lizard culture from being destroyed by the uncouth barbarians sacking EA Ctis' capital.

Since LA Arcoscephale is a land of scholars, poets, and historians, we could not, in good conscience, stand idly by and watch the last remnants of Lizard heritage be lost to the world forever. So the warrior poets went to war to preserve artifacts of a lost civilization.

Ruin has now laid claim to the lands of the Barbarian King. And he takes a dim view of province poaching. Any province poaching of LA Tien Chi lands will be dealt with harshly.

While LA Arcoscephale is a small nation made up of peaceful warrior poets, Ruin does not have much poet in him. Ruin likes war, and it is a strain on the Council to restrain him if he feels he has been provoked.

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Ladies & gentlemen,

Not a very interesting post for many of you here but I really wanted to present my apologizes to EA R'lyeh for a mistake I made earlier in this thread :

I wrote on 2 occasions at least that R'lyeh broke the NAP we had signed because I thought that breaking a NAP means : putting an end to the NAP :"we have NAP 5 and I'll attack you in 5 turns, end of the peace".
Which is correct and fair.

But it looks like "breaking a NAP" actually means : "I have a NAP5 with you but I'll attack you before those 5 turns anyway". Which is dubious and unfair.

I want to insist of the fact that EA R'lyeh didn't broke any NAP with me in this meaning. He just put an end to the NAP we had. Sorry for the mistake then, and back to the ultimate war. Good luck for the survivors !

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The heads of the Sidhe lords and their pretender enchantress now decorate the Mead Hall in Utgard. Vengeance is bittersweet though.

I know Cleveland has taken a break for the time being but nevertheless, we take our eyepatches off to salute his valiant and creative efforts that seriously knocked Utgard off our once proud trajectory.

We still have many more books to burn and civilizations to wreck however so if you see the horde, then run.

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I dispute Ruin's claim to T'ien Ch'i's lands. It seems that the god of the Barbarian Kings has assigned to me the ownership of T'ien lands. I am afraid, Ruin, that you will not be getting all of T'ien Ch'i's lands, not without a fight. I do not wish for war with Arcoscephale, but if the Hoplites wish to test their mettle on the lances of the Black Knights then so be it. The Anons are waiting.

-Anonymous Black Priest Under the Power of Monny

P.S. Anon the Black Priest (as in prophet of Monny, not one of those other Anons) here. Do you know what an Iron Blizzard feels like? I don't but it's a bit disturbing watching tiny steel darts go through a man's flesh like so many miniature arrows, and even more so when the man begins to unravel before your eyes as the very essence of divinity is expelled from him. Take my word for it, if you will.

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EA C'tis will have the world know that MA C'tis has broken a longstanding NAP with no provocation or warning with a massive sneak attack. We call upon all free nations to respond to this outrage appropriately.

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MA C'tis admits to its extremely poor etiquette but takes umbrage that it could possibly be characterized as a sneak attack.

When we saw the temples of C'tis befouled by hordes of barbarians (literally) we felt we should act with all necessary speed. We shall do what we can to keep what remains of the C'tissian homeland C'tissian, that is a foul, disease-ridden bog of interest to no-one.

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It looks like LA ARco is the biggest aggressor in the world - big, rich, arrogant and attacking only in packs. It is LA ARco that had no 1:1 wars [was it 2:1 or 3:1 against Abysia?]. Now they destroy TC x:1 and threat betrayed small EA C'tis with same actions.

And I though Xietor had at least some remnants of honour and was interested in at least somewhat challenging wars. It seems I was really wrong :(

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MA C'tis: We will accept the explanation that it is a misunderstanding, but you will need to leave our lands immediately.

LA TC is no longer a threat to us. If we were being overrun we would have contacted you and released you from the NAP, because it would have been the neighborly thing to do. Furthermore, none of the lands that border you were ever under LA TC's occupation, and if you were paying attention you would have seen that we *retook* a fort with a large force last turn, and this turn have sieged the last fort that LA TC had ever taken from us.

The fact that you did not contact us and attacked without warning is a breach of the NAP, simple as that. The only honorable course of action for you is to reverse the error and vacate. If you do so, I will also reverse the more pungent opinion of your actions that I voiced privately.

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score graphs turn 50:

http://www.llamaserver.net/showScore...game=KingMaker

la Arcos,with all due respect, has barely half the research of la Agartha, and 2/3 the provinces.

We also fought ea abysia after ma tien chi was all but beaten, and started the war against la tien chi when ea ctis was all but beaten. And we ported our immortal pretender into a province 2 squares from la tien chi's capital.

When you port your immortal pretender into the heart of an enemy's empire to start a war, we can talk.

Had we wanted an easy war, we would have attacked ma tien chi whose lands connect to our own, and who had a small nation. Instead, we risked our pretender and went to war with a nation in a distant area of the world, where we had no connecting border, who had more capitals than we did. Why la tien chi when ma tien chi was closer and much easier? Correct, we wanted to have some fun. and ma tien chi would not have been much of a challenge.



And we never sold out ea ctis. we have had no contact with ma ctis at all this game. In fact, it was at the invitation of EA Ctis that Ruin entered this fray. So EA Ctis had nothing to fear from Ruin.

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MA C'tis says hello :wave:

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"When you port your immortal pretender into the heart of an enemy's empire to start a war, we can talk."

Ha, I'm pretty sure Zeldor's Pretender did, in fact, do just that.

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If you are talking about the fight at Ashdod, that wasn't a pretender ;).

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What caused the problem for me was the post a ways back that made it seem like I was being overrun, when that wasn't the case, in part due to the assistance the gated pretender in question provided. (That and a couple nice new spells in the holster.)

I was in fact rebounding and retaking land lost in the LA TC war.

I accept MA C'tis explanation for what he did, because brazenly breaking an NAP like that for no good reason would turn many other players against him in ways that wouldn't be worth the short-term gain of land. And still isn't, if he chooses to try to *keep* that land now...

If I hadn't had an NAP with him, I wouldn't have left my western frontier exposed like that while I went on bivouac in the east.

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A glance at the score graphs, however, would show anyone that la tien chi was sinking like the Titanic. Before last turn, ea ctis in fact owned as many provinces as la tien chi.

Ruin has done what he can do to save EA Ctis from the Barbarians. He cannot, however, save the Lizards from themselves.

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Foodstamp:

Huh, you must look at everything? And he deserved to be put into HoF for that battle.

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I have scouts in places you would not believe. For instance, I know your mother was cooking spaghetti for dinner at 6:45pm this evening.

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No rectal cavity is safe.

Jazzepi

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I haven't heard anything more from MA C'tis about reversing his error and removing the armies that broke treaty with me by invading my western frontier.

My wilingness to believe that it was an honest error, and not the worst kind of cowardice and basest treachery, hinges upon him making good on it, and removing his forces.

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Foodstamp knows where Waldo is.

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MA C'tis has informed me that he will be removing himself from my lands.

I retract all statements impugning his honor, and any requests I may have made to do him harm on my account.

Thank you.

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So sad to see the Lizards fight amongst themselves. The spirit of Bones, the former ruler of MA Ctis, is glad to see reconciliation amongst the lizards. natural allies if there ever were any.

LA Arcoscephale could not imagine harming EA or MA Arcoscephele. What a travesty that would be.

Ruin casts his piercing vision outward, ever seeking Utgard, the destroyer of the Golden Age. With each breath the giants draw Ruin's ire increases. The world needs a symbol. A sign of Ruin's divine might.....Something the peoples of the world can believe in.

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So, you either casting a global or attacking Utgård?

Since, the usual signs of great power, artifacts and unique summons are gone and you've got none. There's still some global slots left. ;p

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Touch Utgard and we will make your pretender's name an apt one to describe the fate of your nation. Look to Eriu as an example of what befalls the foolish intellectuals that think books can teach them how to fight.

We will assume your message was the result of a Friday night Arcosphalean orgy that led to some bold, alcohol-induced bravery. Any more such messages will bring down the wrath of the horde upon thee.

PS In the meantime, to my longstanding allies and anyone else interested in silencing the oracles LA Arcos, please PM me.

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No ooc here.

Anyone who felt bad about picking on a noob, should take off the kid gloves when dealing with Darkwind. He ignored his nap with me and attacked me, despite my sending him a pm to make sure he understood what it meant. He confirmed he knew that he had to wait to attack me, but did so anyway.

Luckily for me, I always hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. But I do want to call him out as untrustworthy. In my long history of playing Dominions, going back to Dominions II, I have never broke a nap no matter how tempting. That is a record I am proud of.

And while i know some players think treachery is roleplaying etc., I never roleplay when it comes to making treaties/trades etc. If you give me some many gems for an item, you get the item. If you get me to agree to a nap, I honor it, even if it costs me the game.

To each his own style of play. I am sorry you chose to follow the path you did Darkwind.
Especially when it will avail you nothing. You ambushed 2 banelords with a huge army. Both banelords are now in the Hall of Fame. You attacked a castle and killed the pd and 9 mechanical men.

I hope it was worth it.

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I think we all see now who is the real threat and power aspiring for winning the game. While Xietor did all the propaganda against Caelum, Agartha, Helheim, Niefel he was secretly hoarding gems to put the most powerful gem maker. He also invades small weak neighbours.

I hope LA Arco neighbours realise that there is something bad behind their borders and decide to clear that mess.

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Zeldor, reading comprehension is not your strong suit. MA Ulm attacked me. I did not attack MA Ulm. He sent me a PM telling me he wanted LA Tien Chi's lands.

I said(actually being a nice guy), what provinces do you want? He said I need capitals. I said regrettably, it looks as if I am only going to get one of LA Tien Chi's capitals as it is.
The other 2 are being contested by interlopers. And he said well I want the one you have. I said I am afraid you would have to go to war with me to get that one capital from me.

He said war it is. At that point, I reminded him of our nap, and said I accept his pm as notice of termination, and explained he needs to wait before attacking. He said he understood. Then he attacked me.

LA Arcoscephale is a small peaceful nation. We are only defending ourselves from a ruthless unprovoked attack. An attack that ignored a nap.

Why did LA Agartha attack MA Atlantis? LA Agartha has over 24000 research. When LA Arcos breaks 16000 let me know. we will pop the wine corks because we will have 2/3 as much research as la Agartha. But wait, by then you will have 28000(: oh well.

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We had a 2-turn NAP. You reminded me, the turn before last I believe (although knowing me, I could have quite easily have forgot and thought it was the second turn so there you have it), of said NAP so we were on the same train of thought. I guess we were not (or perhaps we were until I presumably added another turn to the game in my head). What do you mean by interlopers anyway? I'm fairly sure the war was originally between EA C'tis and LA T'ien Ch'i, not between T'ien Ch'i and you.

At any rate, LA Arcoscephale is not small at all, and I somewhat doubt that it is peaceful (I remember something about attacking LA T'ien Ch'i when you didn't even have borders with them, which I do not see as much of a peaceful move).

Finally, I wouldn't break a treaty in Kingmaker should I roleplay (which I do in fact do). Monny is not an untrustworthy person (or stone, really). I suppose Anon is though.

One last thing before this post is over. I did not expect to win Kingmaker. I'm a bit surprised I survived as long as I have as is. My hopes right now are a) to actually survive this war, winning or no, or b) to have a really awesome AAR made out of my death (perhaps even two if I'm lucky). :)

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Erf I staled a second time, thinking the turn length was now 72hr.

Anyway for the ultra peaceful sleeping kingdom of ME Arco it doesn't make a big difference.

I was already asking for a sub as I've lost motivation and don't have much time to play these days (would be a good moment to start a war, but just thinking about having to spend 3-4 hours a turn scripting my communions convinced me to rather search a replacement).

(I played this one to avoid to cripple the realm too much, and will be carefull not to stale the next if a sub isn't found)

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Hi Twan,

All you need is a war to get the juices flowing. Too many years of peace in dusty libraries
allows the points of your spears to dull and your generals to get fat from wine.

In any event, with your awesome research, you may at least want to test those communions on someone before handing the game off to a sub. Good luck either way and thanks for playing.

As to the length of the game's turns, here is the quote from the 1st post of the Original Kingmaker thread:

Speed: 24 hours per host for the first 18 turns moving to 48 hours per host until around turn 70+ in which it moves to 72.

So we have another 18 turns until the 72 hour hosting kicks in.

EA Oceania is now AI. Thanks for playing Herode. Good game. The water races are now beginning to dwindle. Only MA Atlantis, EA Atlantis, and EA Ryleh remain.

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Xietor:

MA Atlantis was the one that attacked me and killed my pretender twice. They expected some easy gains and now they are paying price for their greed and arrogance.

And you are surely in top5 nations in that game, so act like a man. We don't want to hear you crying about how bad your situation is. Attack someone at least remotely close to you in power. And don't do it 3:1.

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Zeldor.Tsk tsk. I am not "crying" about how bad my situation is. In no way do I imply I fear to fight a war with Ulm. Just pointing out the violation of a NAP. And it is not in my interest to let Kingmaker know who I am at war with, but i felt the overriding issue was to point out the nap violation. It is not a situation like EA Ctis/MA Ctis. I am not trying to get Ulm to withdraw his forces and all will be forgiven. Far too late for that.......

Ruin will declare war on whom he wants, and will not be baited by anyone into attacking a foe for the benefit of someone else. While Zeldor may want to see a bloodbath among the contenders in the East, and it will occur in due time I am certain, as only one race can ascend, it will not happen any sooner no matter how many posts you make calling for nations to fight tougher opponenets.

:doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:

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Could Sybils also tell who is the victim of Niefel invasion? :) And if you didn't write about Ulm sieging your fort I'd do it, necromancers of Agartha like to keep the world informed with all important news :)

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The Sybils see all. But Sybils are not in the habit of giving out free information. If you like giving out free information, that is your business. We know who Niefelheim attacked, and for a price we will tell.

As to the other information, does it have relevance? Ask the ghosts of the LA Atlantis Alliance from the last Big Game. It is not who strikes the first blow, no matter how mighty(and I am referring to LA Atlantis Alliance's mighty blow not Ulm), that determines who wins a war.

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I always attack on the second turn of an ending 3 turn NAP. Takes the opponent off guard.

Whoops, I'll but out now.

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In an interesting turn of events, EA Atlantis, telling the world of foul treachery by a land race, has declared war on all land races!

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/...4698e4c32g.jpg

Sybils have confirmed the EA Atlantis Flags now fly over the lands Lanka, Kailasa(when it rains it pours), LA Man, and Niefelheim. These Basalt Kings mean Business.:D:D:D

We salute the Basalt Kings for having some fun on their way out of Kingmaker.

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Treachery? We delivered our 30 water gems, as we agreed. That we delivered an invasion on the same turn is hardly *treacherous*.

It's a sign of manly respect for our neighbors!

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On turn 53, LA Agartha shattered the 60 province barrier with 63.

Close on his heels is LA Marignon with 58, EA Heilheim with 58, EA Niefelheim with 57,
LA Caelum with 54, and since Zeldor considers LA Arcos to be a world power, I will add 46 provinces for LA Arcos.

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Grumpy the Lizard says: Dang Basalt King, get outta my yard!

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Xietor:

I'd say EA Niefel, EA Helheim, EA Lanka [look at the speed he is devouring Kailasa], LA Mari, LA Caelum, LA Arco, MA Bandar, MA C'tis, EA Mictlan are strongest nations now. MA Mari [2caps], EA Fomoria [2? caps], MA Arco [2 caps], EA Tir [3 caps] are also far from dead. And don't forget about EA R'lyeh :)

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History repeats itself from the last Big Game, with Lanka killing Kailasa. Will history repeat itself further and MA Ctis kill off Lanka?

Only the Sybils know for sure.