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Krsqk vs. Mathias Ice: after many turns in second place I noticed that at turn 50 I moved into first place . . . what does it mean?

[ May 17, 2003, 22:17: Message edited by: Mathias_Ice ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Uhhh Is this a trick question? It means you are in first place. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Edit: Ok just kidding. what it likely means is that you have more ships than him now since score is largely based on that. No doubt you were not that far down in second place for the first 50 turns

[ May 17, 2003, 22:57: Message edited by: DavidG ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Uhhh Is this a trick question? It means you are in first place. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Edit: Ok just kidding. what it likely means is that you have more ships than him now since score is largely based on that. No doubt you were not that far down in second place for the first 50 turns</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, at least it makes more sense now. Before it was edited, it said he moved into second place. I was really confused then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Update on my game with Rambie: Played a few turns today and I am moving at will through a couple systems. I won the first battle, I took his planet. (Didn't feel like killing ALL his people) And am now in search of his biggest fleet/home system. Unless he has a fleet hiding somewhere then I should be pulling out the win.

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Darn, Rags (if I can be so personal... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), I thought you were on 30 turns or so but can't find it quickly enough.

Sounds like things are going well (well, for you... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

Might be nice to propose a slight "format" to reporting on games. Kinda like:

empire (forum handle) -vs- empire (forum handle): Year: nnnn.n

(but you know us IT types... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ...always too logical)

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Call me what you want. I'm known around here as Rags so that's fine.

Alright, I'll try to go to a new format from now on. And now I'm not aroun 30 turns, I'm up to 105 now.

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"Call me what you want. I'm known around here as Rags so that's fine. "

If your game is coming to a close, I may well be calling you my opponent http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heh, actually it took me two edits to get the post to say what I wanted it to say. (Stupid clogged brain synapses.)

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmmm, I guess I should get a move on then shouldn't I. The Rorg Empire looks forward to meeting {insert your empire name here} http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Grazic vs. Tesco Update 2402.3

Both Tesco & I are using the exact same empire file and yet on turn 1 - second place, turn 2 - second, turn 3 - yep second, etc.
I was at the stage where if I didn't know the high calibre of Tesco, I would be thinking he pulled a swift one on me and changed Empire files, but turn 20 comes in and I've finally hit 1st place.
The only thing I can put it down to is Tesco's Home Planet value must be just higher than mine.

Turn 23 and we have finally met, and it seems like we are as far away as possible. It's going to start get interesting from here on out...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It means I just had 75 colony ships touchdown on turn 50. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[edit]And your losing seven ships to mines in one turn and seven more in the next helped put me back in first place. Not that you really wanted to attack that planet--you just thought you did. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ May 19, 2003, 15:31: Message edited by: Krsqk ]

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Mark vs Gecko stardate 2405.7

Gecko surrenders.

I'd pushed him up into the top third of the map, and had a fleet rampaging round glassing planets that he didn't seem to be able to oppose.

Thanks Gecko, it was a fun game.

Mark

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I tried something different for this game - apparently it did not work. Thanks Mark for a good game. Now back to stalking the bottom of the hill...

Gecko

[ May 19, 2003, 21:24: Message edited by: geckomlis ]

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and i did not switch empires... an agreement is an agreement.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Blue Swede shoes?? When did Asmala become King?

He hasn't beaten me yet, although that's mostly because I can't do but two turns a day, most of the time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Blue Swede shoes?? When did Asmala become King?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Swede? I'm not a Swede http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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Stone Mill vs RexTorres, Turn 37?

Rex is doing everything slightly better at this point. I'm on the edge of my seat. I think I had better starting position than he had again, too. He is pressing me well in the south, and chased me out of some nice systems. I tried to hold up his colonization, but he finally came through en force.

Northern position still holding, but not seriously challenged.

Very crafty, he is. Used ship capture on one of my 97% damaged colony ships at the frontier system. He'll have to repair it, though. Nice move. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

This is going to be a chess match. He is doing well anticipating me... let's see if I guess right anticipating him. I'll have to. He's playing a smart strategy.

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Sounds like it's getting interesting already, Stone.

Question: Not being a sort of capture-ship person, I didn't know you could repair captured ships. I know you can use them and you can examine them. But you can't customize them, can you?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Swede...Finn..is there a difference? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Just checking if you were wandering around the forum!! Hee hee hee

[ May 20, 2003, 21:47: Message edited by: Cheeze ]

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You can repair components which you have already researched. If the colony ship still had its colony comp intact, then it could be analyzed. This is rare, since its high structure dictates that it is usually hit first, but not unheard of.

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Cheeze... I would stop picking on Asmala, seeing on how you are from "Parts Unknown." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Slynky, I believe you may be correct. He does not have to repair that ship. I did not phrase that correctly... He already has my colonization type, but once he gets a transport-capable ship in range, he will be able to transfer my population from cargo and use my breathers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Still hurts.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, I see the damage now but you are assuming the cargo mod was undamaged. At 97% damaged, the cargo mod and colony mod must surely be dead and only one 10Kt module remaining. (I didn't do the math or probabilities). So, if the cargo and colony mod were destroyed, there would be no pop to take off, right?

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The damage percent in the Combat Log screen reflects partially damaged components as well as destroyed ones. The colony comp could still be intact, although it's much more likely that the cargo comp was (200kt vs. 20kt).

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Rare? really? I think I have captured colony ships on a few occassions with no problem. If it is just a lone colony ship then there is no reason the ship would become damaged by a ship or a fleet with capture orders is there?

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I believe it was stated that the colony ship had received 97% damage in a previous combat. The "Capture Ship" strategy usually works fine, though, to my knowledge.

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The Raging Ragnarok Empire vs. Rambies Empire
Stardate 2410.7

Fleet leader Rutags report...It has been 4 long months since the first major battle at Helms De...wait, sorry, I was reading a book...*Ahem*...It has been 4 long months since the first major battle at Organtrix. We have discovered two new star systems in search of the Rambie Empire home system - each of which are empty systems. It is hard to believe that two prime systems such as the ones we found could be empty after so long of time since we first met the Rambie Empire; our people are still in the process of colonizing all available planets in our claimed territory. New colonys are being added to our might empire each and every month now.

I do not know how close we are to the Rambie Empire home system, but we do hope that we are close. It is our destiny to find this home system and rid the universe as we know it of this evil race. They have committed far too great of crimes in the years past for us to allow them to continue any longer...It is time for their race to come to an end...It is time for them to meet their final destiny...

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Geoschmo vs Gecko
Year 2402.6

We blew through the first 26 turns in about 12 hours. Gecko plays fast. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

We met a few turns ago. He happened upon one of my colonies right after it had been established and glassed it before they had a chance to build any defenses. I'll have to get him back for that one.

Looks like we have some space between us, which is nice.

Geoschmo

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Three turns later and I return to the system where he glassed my planet. This time I have a couple of frigates to protect my colonists. His ship is gone, must have been low on supplies. Ok, I'll cover the warp point and get the colony working on defenses quick. New turn....Crud! WTF!?!

Oh, has that obscuring storm been there all along? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Ok Gecko you little sneak. Now I owe you two.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Umm, actually, you now owe me three... 8)

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Umm, actually, you now owe me three... 8)[/quote]
Four if you count the one I abandoned rather then let you destroy it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And now a ship. Your missle frigates will have a limited usefullness of course, but they are proving to be an annoying distraction at the moment. Well played.

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Umm, actually, you now owe me three... 8)</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Four if you count the one I abandoned rather then let you destroy it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And now a ship. Your missle frigates will have a limited usefullness of course, but they are proving to be an annoying distraction at the moment. Well played.

Geoschmo[/quote]

Yes, the inevitable march of technology will soon diminish their utility. BTW, Why did you abandon that planet?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I expected you to attack it and knew if you did it would be glassed. Abandoning it preserves the resource value of the planet and doesn't affect my empire happiness. And for once I wanted to be the one giving you a suprise, no matter how lame. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">glassing a planet affects the resource value? I never noticed that. How much does it hurt it? Is it across all resource values or just a random one (or minerals)?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All of them lose like 10% of their value.
If the same planet gets glassed a couple times it starts to be significant.
Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I expected you to attack it and knew if you did it would be glassed. Abandoning it preserves the resource value of the planet and doesn't affect my empire happiness. And for once I wanted to be the one giving you a suprise, no matter how lame. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good play then on your part - very subtle. I could not figure out why I could not "see" your colony - until I read your post. So, yes, you definitely surprised me, and, no, it was actually not lame at all but very cool.

Gecko

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Hmm, sounds like something I pulled on Geo in one of my other games.

Except most of my empire disappeared on him, heh.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif , good one!

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So... Any updates to games that are going on around the Hill? I won't have any new updates for awhile. Rambie is on a trip until the 27th and he said he may not be able to download the turns with his laptop; so I'll just have to wait until he returns. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif He said it might help him too, it'll give him time to think up a stratagy to fight against me with. He said he's been playing the B5 Mod too much lately and forgot most of the Stock tech tree so he is a bit behind. We'll see if his week long of thinking time will enable him to come back in this game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky, you never said if you liked the format I changed to. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif You did get on me afterall. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Sparhawk empire is no more.
Congratulation gandalph, that Last battle did it..nothing left besides some planets. I was planning to go a destroy some planets with that fleet, but you destroyed it in time.
I think this was my best game..well for the learning then.

Thanks

asmala, can you give me a new opponent and put gandalph one up.

sparhawk

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There's an opponent to neither of you at the moment so you'll have to wait until the next game finishes.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, I noticed alright. And I noticed someone else used the info I suggested. I started to say something (and perhaps should have) but then thought I had already gotten dangerously close to that "imaginary boundary" that "newbie lightweights" like me shouldn't cross. So, I thought the less I said about the whole subject, the better.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for the game and I am glad that you took some lessons with you. The ships that took out your Last fleet were part of my new invasion fleet and were sitting on a planet in that system getting trained. When you started taking out my colonies in Gretok, I anticipated you coming through that warp point and sent my ships there to lie in waiting. It actually was risky on my part as the loss of those colonies in Gretok, and the other ones you took out on the other side of the galaxy, were my main source of minerals. I was -25k per turn and losing 2 ships per turn. Again, thanks for the great game.

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Geoschmo vs Gecko
Year 2406.5

I flank Geoschmo’s warp point defenses with a large fleet, clear the minefield from HIS side of the warp point, slaughter his large fleet with basically no losses on my part and THEN get promptly whacked by a bunch of low-tech fighters to the tune of 60 plus ships. Why might you ask? Well, it seems that my all-armor ships will not ram the fighters in PBW. I guess I should have known this particular idiosyncratic wrinkle to SEIV? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

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Yes. Fleets with lot's of missles and ramming ships and zero point defense or direct fire weapons get chewed up pretty nice by fighters. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Live and learn... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
In any case, it was an orgy of mutual destruction. And now, for something completely different...

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Well that is interesting. I added it to my strategy article... You can't ram fighters.

The real flaw was not having point defense, I'd estimate. Nice counter, Geo.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, turn 65, there ought to be some PD weapons on board.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, turn 65, there ought to be some PD weapons on board.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I probably contributed to that by religously avoiding any missles or showing him that I had fighters until the turn just before that. And my huge advantage in ship combat attack and defense skills he probably figured that direct fire was the way to go for my ships and missles/ramming were his best option. Still he should have probably had some, but I give him points for finding a strategy and comitting to it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, turn 65, there ought to be some PD weapons on board.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I already knew he had fighters. I assumed he might have a smattering of missles. I made a choice not to install PD on any ships - why should I? I had like 30,000 points of armor to ram with. I simply did not understand the game mechanics. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
Back to the drawing board...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, turn 65, there ought to be some PD weapons on board.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I already knew he had fighters. I assumed he might have a smattering of missles. I made a choice not to install PD on any ships - why should I? I had like 30,000 points of armor to ram with. I simply did not understand the game mechanics. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
Back to the drawing board...</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As a guy who hardly ever rams, I guess I didn't think of it like that.