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Groundworm March 12th, 2011 05:11 AM

Re: New Kinda Noob game Starting
 
Requesting 48 hour extension. Busy week + work all weekend = may need until Sunday eve to take my turn. Will attempt to be more expeditious as my schedule allows.

Finalgenesis March 12th, 2011 08:38 AM

Re: New Kinda Noob game Starting
 
Done, thanks for hanging there while we're still looking for sub! Tried once in irc will try again

Finalgenesis March 13th, 2011 10:09 PM

Re: New Kinda Noob game Starting
 
Gonna need input here, so far no sub has shown but in my experience one eventually does, I don't think we can be choosers here and go for newish players.

In the meantime, Arco can't really be allowed to AI or left in any length of limbo without messing up the game balance.

I suggest that once Groundworm can't hand in temp turns anymore, we put the game on hold until a sub is available, I haven't been able to hit irc on peak hours so if we're lucky we should find a sub soon.

Ideas?

mockingbird March 16th, 2011 11:36 PM

Re: New Kinda Noob game Starting
 
You do realize that casting Arcane Nexus is generally considered a declaration of war against the world, right?

Finalgenesis March 17th, 2011 03:42 AM

Re: New Kinda Noob game Starting
 
Nope we are not declaring war on the world, my global does not cause any direct aggressive action to others, it's no different then a gem income global like pyre or soul well, it's nature is exactly the same.

You are of course free to declare war on us.

Xanatos March 17th, 2011 03:46 AM

Re: New Kinda Noob game Starting
 
Hes right of course, Arcane nexus is basically starting to produce nukes, everyone is now going to come after you=/ It's considered a breaker of naps, truces, and a war dec on the world.

Finalgenesis March 17th, 2011 04:33 AM

Re: New Kinda Noob game Starting
 
Again, you're free to declare war on me, declaring on game leader or someone getting very strong is very understandable.

but calling gem income increase itself an aggressive action is a stretch, we are not committing aggressive actions anywhere, we're simply increasing our gem income, does this make us get stronger by the turn faster? Yes. Is increasing gem income itself aggressive action? No.

Otherwise all gem generating globals would be the same, as their nature are exactly the same if different in degrees.

I believe the confusion stems from that it's considered a breaker in that you can't leave the guy with nexus up for long without him running away with it, hence it's almost mandatory you declare war on the guy.

I will note though it's considered strongest on bigger maps , and it's effect while powerful, is certainly scaled down by corresponding degrees depending on map size.

Finalgenesis March 17th, 2011 12:51 PM

Re: New Kinda Noob game Starting
 
please welcome our Arco sub Allium, Groundworm should already have caught him up to speed.

Welcome Allium!

mockingbird March 17th, 2011 01:58 PM

Re: New Kinda Noob game Starting
 
As I understand it, the Dominions community standard is that the spells Arcane Nexus, Utterdark, Burden of Time, and Forge of the Ancients are implicit violations of NAPs.

This standard prevents lots of nitpicking and tedium when negotiating NAPs, because then not every violation of the NAP needs to be spelled out.

mockingbird March 17th, 2011 01:59 PM

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Also, welcome Allium! :)


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