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Szumo June 8th, 2012 02:42 PM

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I think it hurs Tien Chi more :P

mattyburn7 June 8th, 2012 03:55 PM

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This is where the Sauro strategy worked perfectly. We have NO soldiers to pay!!

revenant2 June 9th, 2012 03:29 PM

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Something weird happened this past turn that I'm at a loss to explain.

T'ien and I both attacked C'tis in the same province. T'ien went first and defeated C'tis, and then my forces moved in and engaged T'ien.

The battle summary shows that we lost the battle against T'ien, killing two out of his four Tartarians, but the battle replay shows that we won, enslaving one of them and killing the other three.

Does anyone know what might have happened?

Here's a screen-shot of the battle.

http://devnada.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/b44.jpg

Calahan June 10th, 2012 02:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by revenant2 (Post 806210)
The battle summary shows that we lost the battle against T'ien, killing two out of his four Tartarians, but the battle replay shows that we won, enslaving one of them and killing the other three.

Does anyone know what might have happened?

This is a well known bug where the battle replay doesn't match the battle report. The precise cause of this bug isn't known, but if you are using mods then sometimes having a slightly different version of a mod that the host computer is using can cause it. As such making sure you are using the exact same mods as the host computer can correct the replay. (keep in mind that the battle report is correct, and that it's the battle replay that's wrong. Or at least that's been the case in every example I've come across)

But this is not exclusively a mod bug, as it has also been seen in SP games without mods. Unfortunately it's just one of the bugs in the game that regular players have just learnt to accept. (as you either have to just accept it or stop playing)

revenant2 June 10th, 2012 05:43 AM

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Thanks for the response Calahan.

curtadams June 11th, 2012 08:16 AM

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I've read that the bug can be caused by having a scout watching the battle, and I did have a scout there. I would guess that the game re-runs the battle for the observing scout rather than showing the first run, and then saves the re-run for viewing. The bug might be more common that we realize as often a small change in the battle won't get noticed. How many of us count survivors by type at the end of the battle?

curtadams June 11th, 2012 08:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Szumo (Post 806152)
I think it hurts Tien Chi more :P

I think so too, although I'm not absolutely sure since T'ien Chi's battlemages are mostly throwing 100 Pre spells while mine use mostly aimed spells. Definitely least harmful for you, Szumo, and I guess that's a good level for a global in a 3-way fight.

revenant2 June 11th, 2012 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by curtadams (Post 806269)
I've read that the bug can be caused by having a scout watching the battle, and I did have a scout there. I would guess that the game re-runs the battle for the observing scout rather than showing the first run, and then saves the re-run for viewing. The bug might be more common that we realize as often a small change in the battle won't get noticed. How many of us count survivors by type at the end of the battle?

The battle was very close: I tried rerunning it a few times and changing the RNG, and the results would vary quite a bit. This was because everything hinged on whether I was able to enslave one of his Tartarians.

curtadams June 12th, 2012 01:46 AM

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I had to give myself a 12 hour delay. Next turn due: 01:40 GMT on Wednesday June 13th

curtadams June 21st, 2012 12:11 PM

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24 hour delay for myself and T'ien Chi.


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