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Just had to try for the 1,000. (OK, shoot me!)
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You can ram fighters in tactical combat; the limitations of multiplayer/simultaneous/combat AI prevent it on PBW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
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Cheeze vs Asmala - turn 51
Asmala's kicking my butt left and right. It's not over yet, but in most ways it might as well be. Still, you never can tell. Any turn now I expect Asmala to say, "How are you gentlemen! All your base are belong to us! You are on the way to destruction! You have no chance to survive make your time! HA HA HA HA!" |
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Heads up down below. Looks like the Dundas Rednecks are about to take a tumble from the top of the hill. It's a long way down now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
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BBegemott vs Phoenix-D, turn 52
I expanded into about 3/4 of the quadrant and find myself in 1st place all the game (have scored 530K). But there were no big combats yet, so things still might change into my opponent's favour. |
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BTW - if you're Online, so am I; let's play! And I'm likely to be here - barring TV breaks - for the rest of the evening (and some of the morning if necessary). [ May 24, 2003, 19:03: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ] |
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If you hadn't had mines things would be less in your favor. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Just remarking on the little worries your Escorts have caused me...and that you were in 1st place for so long. Since I posted, I have been in 1st place (which feels better....but). BTW - if you're Online, so am I; let's play! And I'm likely to be here - barring TV breaks - for the rest of the evening (and some of the morning if necessary).</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> |
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You have to compose yourself, Cheeze http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Pretty soon you'll see my main fleet. I can give you a hint: my fleet will come along the same route that the previous attack fleet. I could have attaked earlier but I don't have hurry with this game because I have to wait long to get a new opponent after this match is over.
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Grandpa Kim vs. Gozguy approx. turn 54
I guess you would say we are in the deployment phase. The map is about as evenly split as you can make it and we are both building for the inevitable show down. Oddly enough, we both seem to have chosen the same basic strategy so it will be interesting to see who handles it better. After feeling out each others positions, we have settled down to dispute one system. I took one planet, then he mined my fleet, the touchy b*****d! On a side note, I'm trying a tactic I haven't used since I played in tactical mode. We'll see how Goz like it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Krsqk Vs Mathias Ice : at about turn 118 or so the Green Meanies of Mathias Ice admitted defeat. Move my formidable opponent to the next level of the hill, and feed me to the next shark at the bottom.
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Mathias put up a nice game. He did jump into first place for a while, and also fielded some nice fleets with PPB IV against my DUC V fleets. I can't take too much credit for this win; I profited hugely by reading this thread, as well as Stone Mill's strategy articles--hopefully, next game I can put them all into practice with a little more finesse. Surrender came not a turn too soon for me; my three attack fleets were about to run out of supply just as I discovered his home system. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
[edit] Yay. I get to move up to the bottom of the hill. That sounds like such a major accomplishment--"Congratulations! You finally made it up to the bottom!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif I'm not sure how up to date the site is, but it looks like I'm going against Gandalph next. [ May 26, 2003, 08:02: Message edited by: Krsqk ] |
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Well, that game went to BBegemott on turn 62. Was about to send in my attack force when his fleet comes through the same warp point. After his fleet blew mine away without a single loss, and checking the conditions around, I surrendered. Nothing I could do at that point. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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Yeah, ECM-3 + Maximum Training against ECM-1... You had to be extremely lucky to win that battle. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Thanks for the game, Phoenix-D.
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Trithian Empire (Slynky) -vs- Kif Hegemony (Mark the Merciful): 2405.5
(standard KOTH game: 1 medium starting homeworld) Expansion and exploring as usual in the usual "circular" sort of galaxy. Ran into each other in the northeastern part of the map and established some boundaries there. Then, later, found each other in the southwestern part of the map. Mark was in first place from the beginning and stayed there for the first 15 or 20 turns. Got me worried a bit. Then, I popped into 1st. Stayed there till very recently when he saw 1st place again for one turn. THAT got me plenty scared since I fell to 2nd place on the turn I had 7 cruisers come out of the shipyards! But on to the action, such as it is for the moment. Mark has played mostly a defensive game up till now (though I am on the lookout for a change). I made the first advance (small one) into a "tentacle" in the Northeast. All I did was pave the way for a colony ship into a system where he had a few colonies. Plopped it down. He attacked my 4 carriers with 4 or 5 ships and lost all of them while taking down about 25 fighters. I launched all the rest of my fighters to move and sit at the warphole so the tentacle would be cut off from the rest of his empire. In the Southwest, we shared a system. I put together a fleet near there and rushed into the attack hoping a sweeper capability of 80 mines would be enough. Wrong! Swept 80 mines and lost 5 ships to the remainder. Glassed the planet leaving the system to me at the loss of those ships. A few colony ships of his have encountered fighters here and there but no real advances till I moved 26 ships into a system I had never been in (in the Northeast). That's when I discovered he already had gained another colony type. Now he has gas and rock ability. There were no defenses to speak of and I popped the first colony of his and there is one left. Holding this system further cuts off the tentacle I mentioned before. Still no signs of a major fleet of his though to have gotten into 1st place for a turn, there must be one somewhere. Strangely (or perhaps NOT so), he seems to have skipped fighter ability (not sure if it's OK to say stuff like that as I don't like to give away other people's ways of playing...but I mention it because he could easily change that approach in his next game). The only weapons we have seen of each others are DUCs and PDs. (OK, OK, I'll quit running off at the mouth) |
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Update from the Top of the Hill - The Beer Wars
After meeting on turn 4 the evil Viking empire quickly realized that the Dundas Rednecks society was, like their own, driven by the production and consumption of Beer. In a mocking gesture they transmitted a picture of themselves holding a large mug of Beer. Meanwhile their beer named ships began pouring into the Rednecks home system while their scouts began to wander the Rednecks territory in a drunken stuppor seeking the Rednecks brewing facilities. The Vikings were soon evicted from the Rednecks system but came back a month later in a typical drunken Berzerkar Viking Rage. To date the Vikings have eliminated the Rednecks 3 home systems but much to their dissapointment I'm sure discovered that the Rednecks had relocated all their brewing facilities to the rear. Things look grim for the Rednecks. The current plan is to attempt to consume all the remaining Beer to keep it out of Viking hands..... |
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Two empires after my own heart! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif LOL, nice summary DavidG http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
It is true. Much to the dismay of the Vikings, we could not take any of the breweries intact so far. Even though we use massive tankers able to hold several MegaGallons, the range of the Viking fleets is severely reduced as the beer supplies are almost gone after a few months and the crews refuse to venture any further. In order to prevent mutiny, we have to resupply the beer reserves too often. We have now established forward front-line breweries and with the latest technological breakthough, Zero-G transportable breweries, we are hopeful to have solved the logistical nightmare of keeping our crews in good supply. Fully loaded Viking fleets are setting out to locate and take the Last secret hidden Redneck brewing facilities in uncharted territory. edit: seeing the evil scheme of the Rednecks to consume all the remaining reserves puts the Viking captains under extreme time pressure... Skøl, Rollo [ May 26, 2003, 16:15: Message edited by: Rollo ] |
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Crest - Top.
Watch out the Cavity Creeps have begun their attack on Toothopolis!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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As for fighters; well, I decided to spend those Research Points on something else instead. [ May 27, 2003, 00:14: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ] |
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I've gotta admit, that spending 100K resource points on fighters was wasted for the Grazic Rock Empire. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Tesco just handed us 3 fully ladden Light Carriers, after he destroyed our retreating fleet, he thought that the next Warp Point was unprotected, which was being guarded by Boarding & Point-defense ships. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Won't Tesco's population be surprused when they see their carriers return and open fire of them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Edit - Oops, Turn 62 by the way. [ May 27, 2003, 05:14: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ] |
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Fighters in KOTH? Perhaps an expensive investment. So far in my games, they have served me well in the early/middle game. When your empire needs to be guarded at multiple points, they are kind of nice. Easier than laying mines everywhere or posting ships to guard entry points.
They whipped my *** in my first game of KOTH with Primitive and served me well in my next 2 games. Then, again, I'm not a superior player...just adequate. |
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Asmala, I'm done. Move Gecko up. Take me off the hill for the time being. I don't want to start another game right away.
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Kingly Defense Update: StoneMill vs. RexTorres
Turn 44? RexTorres has mustered a strategic forward operating bases on each front. Each base has about 14 ships or so. These make me very uneasy. Lemme tellya baby... there's probably gunna be some fightin soon. And good fightin' I don't foresee too many lopsided blowouts. From the way Rex is playing, I'd say we are going to rule out a training advantage on either side- we'll be even. So what we'll see is the impact of numbers, designs, and strategies. On this, we have not been tested... yet. Anyone have a knife to cut through the tension? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif |
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Stone Mill at least you will not have to divide the fleets up to destroy them piecemeal
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Heading into "uncharted waters" (read: untested designs and design matchups) would make me uneasy, too.
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Geoschmo[/QUOTE The start of KOTH Geoschmo vs Gecko coincided with the end of my employment. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Except for the Memorial Day weekend (US holiday) and a weekend trip to Pittsburgh, PA for graduate school, I have been home – looking for a new job, taking classes, and doing the hausfrau thing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Gecko |
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No, just in a few too many games right now. Don't want to start any new ones.
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Well you can move Rollo up the hill and me back to the bottom http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
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108 turns in 8 days!
That is 13.5 turns a day! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Did you guys sleep? And I thought I was doing great when I could manage the occasional 3 turns a day. |
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Trithian Empire (Slynky) -vs- Kif Hegemony (Mark the Merciful): 2406.9
(standard KOTH game: 1 medium starting homeworld) More battles and surprises. Back to the "tentacle". Remember? I cut it off form the rest of his empire. But, with a fleet of around 30-35 LCs, he ran me out of the system, connected his "arm" back and also wiped my planet like a raw booger! Now, what was he going to do with that fleet? So, I bolstered the wormhole to the south of his fleet as best as I could and sure enough, there he went. Took some damage (about 30% of his fleet) and then had his choice of 2 nearby planets. All I had was 3 BCs to throw at him. Untrained at that! So, he chose the "mineral" planet and wiped it like snot from his sleeve. A round or 2 later, my 3 BCs caught them and returned the favor, much to my surprise! Killed about 18 ships and no damage to me. But, one shouldn't sit around thinking their ships are boss. A few turns later, I found out that he had gone from LC fleets to a fleet comprised of about half battleships. Skipped cruisers and BCs completely. Another brutal battle resulting in all my warships croaking. Thankfully, I did enough damage that the battleships couldn't chase down my 5 sweepers! The battleships were left at damages ranging from 80-90% damage. I'll try to pop through the hole and get what I can before they can move to be repaired. It seems this area is the likely area for battle as each of us (I assume) know other points of our borders are defended to the hilt. With over 100 ships, I am still in 2nd place. He must have some awesome fleets moving up! Seems like a powerful game to have started from only 1 medium homeworld. [ May 29, 2003, 19:00: Message edited by: Slynky ] |
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Slynky, that's what I call a knock-down drag out bareknuckle brawl. How is it that your 3 untrained BC's took out that fleet of 18?
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Trithian Empire (Slynky) -vs- Kif Hegemony (Mark the Merciful): 2408.0 (I think)
(standard KOTH game: 1 medium starting homeworld) Speaking of brutal... Again, on the northeast side (below the arm/tentacle), Mark moved toward one of my perimeter systems. He popped through the wormhole. Mark: 17 battleships, 2 LCs -vs- Me: 76 small sats, 18 BCs, 110 ftrs. Obviously trained, they were hard to hit! I would have to say his position coming in was bad. He chose "wall" and it ran perpendicular to my "V", so I had one end of him with my fleet and the 76 sats were at the other end of his line. My sats only screwed up 2 Bats but several of them clustered around it to blow the stack away. This worked to my advantage as my fleet had fewer ships to contend with on the other end of his wall. Results: Mark's fleet destroyed (support ships, too) while I ended with 0 sats, 70 ftrs, and 12 BCs. Meanwhile, we were both making plans in the southwestern part of the map. I thought I may have the surprise, but when I moved into his area and glassed a planet, I see a fleet that is borderline victory problem. After adding a few more ships 'cause it looked like a problem, we met over his planet. Mark: 7 Bats, 7 LCs, and 2 small WPs -vs- Me: 8 BCs, 8 CRs, 5 LCs, and 3 DEs. Though all trained, several of the smaller ships were old designs. Results: Mark's planet and fleet destroyed, Me: 3 BCs and my support ships left (whew!). So, we've both gone through a few ships, Mark more than me. Yet, I still languish in 2nd place. God (and Mark http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) only knows what is coming next! (sorry to bore ya guys...but for the people [like me] who like details...) |
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Trithian Empire (Slynky) -vs- Kif Hegemony (Mark the Merciful): 2409.0)
(standard KOTH game: 1 medium starting homeworld) More death and destruction. We pushed on through another ten turns tonight, which was great. In the Southwest (in a system separated from the rest of my empire by two nebulae systems), re-inforcements already on the way arrived just as Slynky's second wave appeared. He temporarily fled the system (and even abandoned the colony he'd placed there), but returned in heavier numbers within a couple of turns. My force was mostly obsolete LCs, but were defending a planet with about 10 small WPs with large mount APB Xs and XIIs. Unfortunately, the random deployment put Slynky's fleet in a V around the planet, with my fleet off to one side and unable to screen it. So I benefitted very little from the firepower of the planet, and he won the battle with light casualties. Soon, every planet in the system had been glassed (some twice over), and a couple of Slynky's colonies were started up. Boo! Hiss! The next few turns were taken up with preparatory maneuvers (and claims from Slynky that I'd exposed a huge gap in his defences - though I never spotted it - methinks he's been indulging in a bit of gentle disinformation every now and then). In the Last action packed turn, I sent another fleet through the same Northeastern wormhole as before; and as before, it was totally destroyed while inflicting heavy but not fatal damage on the defenders. And my second wave of reinforcements arrived too late in the Southwest. Thirsting for revenge, they're heading for Slynky's seemingly undefended colonies. Tune in for tomorrow's exciting episode of "over the top"; World War I in space... |
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Trithian Empire (Slynky) -vs- Kif Hegemony (Mark the Merciful): 2409.0
(standard KOTH game: 1 medium starting homeworld) Well, not sure what to say. The game has been awesome. No matter how many ships I kill, he has more! For the standard game KOTH game (instead of the "quick start" some people choose with 3 good planets), the fleets and ship count is awesome! At one time, I had 138 ships. Then Mark "trimmed" it some http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif . The battle he talks of involved about 30 ships each. I won it but with lots of casulties. I thought I was safe, then he sent another 30 ships through the hole the turn after! Mind you, these were mostly battleships. No way I could hold under those conditions. Of course, the "assisted" reduction in maintenance cost has allowed me to load up more yards. I've been "porked", "chicken'd", "onion'd", and "cheese'd" till I think I've lost my taste for Pizza! If you have ever encountered his ships, you know what I mean. |
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Move Lord Chain up a step, he is the victor in our game. Well played.
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Krsqk v. Gandalph, 2400.5--First Contact
My games seem to be flip-flopping back and forth. After a quick meeting with tesco, I had a nice leisurely, balanced start with Mathias_Ice. Now it's back for a quick start with Gandalph. We'll see how this one plays out; it should be over quickly one way or the other... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif |
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Phoenix-D vs Kazarp (David G):
This has the makings of a very short game. We picked a max-tech no mines 10 planet start, and started right next to each other. I had a bunch of breathables in my home systems, so I went for colonizers and BSYs. He went for scouts and BBs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Fortunately his BBs don't have all that much supply..one ran out of gas attacking my worlds. I have one very unhappy system minus two planets though. EDIT: Two turns later, one planet less, I've discovered something very interesting about my opponents ships. They have NO shields. They aren't really BBs at all; they aren't completely filled, they're just quick-build half filled designs. So my weapon platforms are tearing into them- a single WP smashes the BB down to 60% in a single round. At least two of his BBs are cripples, and my fully armed full battleships are now off the line. What's better is he assumed I'd go religious, so his defensiveness is nil. Who -needs- the taliasman under those circumstances? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [ June 03, 2003, 07:03: Message edited by: Phoenix-D ] |
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Most likely the final update: Cheeze vs Asmala
I started this game in 2nd place, and it just got worse from there. It would not be true to say that Asmala was one step ahead of me the entire game....it was more like 3 or 4 miles (that's about 5-7 kilometers for you metric types http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) Barring some truly bizarre turn of events, like some 3rd empire entering the game and plowing into Asmala's exposed systems (if there are any), this game is over. Perhaps I can be toyed with a while, to pass the time until another unfortunate player faces this excellent opposition. I have not had a chance to play my style of game because Asmala never gave me the opportunity. As I saw it, I had one real weakness to exploit to achieve victory, but I never came even slightly close to being able to take advantage of it. Thanks for the beating...although I was so out-played I don't think I'll be learning anything from it...beyond fearing to play Asmala in KOTH another time!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Very nicely done!! |
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