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Loser November 26th, 2003 09:25 PM

Re: Real World Philospohy
 
Actually, I was responding to Atrocities.
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Originally posted by Atrocities:
To bad real life isn't more like Web Life.
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Atrocities November 26th, 2003 09:45 PM

Re: Real World Philospohy
 
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Originally posted by Loser:
Actually, I was responding to Atrocities. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Atrocities:
To bad real life isn't more like Web Life.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I should clarify:

Have you ever dreamed that you were doing something that you really enjoyed doing? Say flying a fighter or perhaps just jettting around breath taking landscapes with your own personal flight pack?

Or haven't you ever wished that people were more like they are when they chat on line. The barriors between race, appearance, other are broken down to the fundamentals, humor, intelligance, etc.

I enjoy what little life I have been blessed with, and am thankful for a lot of the things I have been able to do in life, but I would also enjoy jetting around the country side flying free as a bird without being cooped up in an airplane. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

As for the darker side of things, I have no desire to hurt any one, and I do think that violence breads violence, and when parents use violent video games and television as a babysister, then they are asking for the demented little twisted s*** f***s they end up with.

Believe me when I say that counsolers in the near future will have to deal with more and more youth and try to help them sort out what is real in life, and what is not. Its a normal, breif, human emotional reaction to want to kill someone when your mad, but 99.99% of the time, we don't. In the near future, the kids of today are going to have a real tough time decerning this. It has already begun to happen, and we all know how television, music, movies, and games effect us. Some more than others, but t hey DO effect us.

Fyron November 26th, 2003 10:15 PM

Re: Real World Philospohy
 
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Originally posted by Loser:
Actually, I was responding to Atrocities. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Atrocities:
To bad real life isn't more like Web Life.

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Believe me when I say that counsolers in the near future will have to deal with more and more youth and try to help them sort out what is real in life, and what is not. Its a normal, breif, human emotional reaction to want to kill someone when your mad, but 99.99% of the time, we don't. In the near future, the kids of today are going to have a real tough time decerning this. It has already begun to happen, and we all know how television, music, movies, and games effect us. Some more than others, but t hey DO effect us.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Bah. The few people that are that violent are not violent because they play violent video games, but because they are violent by nature.

[ November 26, 2003, 20:17: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Loser November 26th, 2003 10:25 PM

Re: Real World Philospohy
 
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
The few people that are that violent are not violent because they play violent video games, but because they are violent by nature.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Aw, don't excuse them that way. I'm guessing it's just a stray implication, but no matter what someone's background is, they are responsible for their own actions.

Fyron November 26th, 2003 10:33 PM

Re: Real World Philospohy
 
Umm... I wasn't excusing anyone! Where did background come into this? I was talking about violent by personality with "by nature".

Atrocities November 26th, 2003 11:06 PM

Re: Real World Philospohy
 
This is an OPINIONATED post by me. It is not meant to offend.

Normally Fyron you would be correct, a violent person is just violent. Did you know that most violent people seldom if ever play video games, but they do enjoy violent tv and movies?

The thing is that over the Last decade our society has seen a dramatic increase in violent behavior. From Road rage to school shootings. We have also seen an incredible influx of panzy assed behavior from people who want to protect everyone from their rights. Politically correctness has swamped us resulting in normal behavior being labeled as violent.

This is a mask to hid the truth behind. Have you noticed that cartoons such as the Road Runner and Bugs Bunny have been edited and watered down? Even the older cartoons have been Banned or protested because they are too violent. WTF!

Just a few weeks ago a six year old boy took his GI Joe action figure to school, and the school called the police on him because they have a zero tolerance to gun violence. The GI Joe had a pLastic m16 about two inches long.

So the term violence is now being wielded by every panzed assed sissy in America as a catch all term for anything that they don't like.

France was just like this before the war... well they are still like this, no offense.

The French taught their children to go and tell on other children that were being mean, while the Germans taught their children to be aggressive and competitive. If memory serves, France was beaten in a very short amount of time. I know this has really nothing to do with the debate about violence, but I do feel that it has historical significance when compared to the debate about violent tv, movies, music, and video games.

I am like you, I know that these things do effect people, it desensitizes them to violence, thus making violent acts less shocking. A few sick twisted neglected bent individuals who are incapable of understanding the basic concept that we should not kill each other, have no conscience and go off to exact revenge upon the innocent for no GD reason.

Those twisted low life’s are the ones that make the news, especially if the Police find a video game or rap song in their homes.

Lets not blame the criminal, it was not him doing it, it was the violent TV, the video games, the gun industry, ford motors, McDonald, etc. Lets blame everyone and everything for our own pit falls except the individual who is really to blame, the person doing the blaming.

Sure violent video games, and TV do have an effect on people, they do effect some more than others, but over all, most of us are smart enough to know what is real and what is not. However, more and more young parents are using tv, movies, music, and games as baby sisters for their kids, and these kids are the ones growing up with twisted morals and bent psycho logic. To them it is perfectly ok to go to school and kill the kid who called you weird because that is what do on tv and in a video game, you kill your enemies.

These are the ones that need protection, not from violent entertainment, but from their unknowing parents who are often to busy to take notice of what it is their young kids are watching, listening to, or playing.

My dad had a good cure all for this, he'd shut the tv off and tell us to go outside and play. I think if more and more parents chose activity over non activity, then we would have fewer violent people in the world.

Fyron November 27th, 2003 05:58 AM

Re: Real World Philospohy
 
Television is the late 20th/ early 21st century opiate of the masses.

Cyrien November 27th, 2003 06:23 AM

Re: Real World Philospohy
 
I keep on hearing about the rising crime rates in the US. I wonder how many are aware that almost all forms of crime in the US have been on the decrease since 1993 after a brief flareup in the early 90's of increased youth violence.

Crime Rates

Note that it isn't crime increasing. It is conviction rates increasing. You could make a healthy case that that is due to the perception of increased crime and a hard on crime attitude.

[ November 27, 2003, 04:25: Message edited by: Cyrien ]

Fyron November 27th, 2003 07:48 AM

Re: Real World Philospohy
 
The reason why people are deluded into thinking that crime rates are increasing is because the news media's coverage of crime has been steadily increasing over the Last decade. Every year, more and more of the news is devoted to reporting on crimes, though there are fewer each year. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Cyrien November 27th, 2003 07:57 AM

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Do what I do and watch less TV. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Even when I do watch it it tends to either by a history or discovery type of channel or the cartoon network. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I'll take my opiate straight up thank you very much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

I get my news Online and from friends and family. Much better than watching an overly biased 1 hour news program covering lots of things that I could care less about.

Besides checking 12 Online biased accounts of something gives you a much better overall view of something than a single biased view. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ November 27, 2003, 05:59: Message edited by: Cyrien ]


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