Re: Pure OCC
 

It appears to be working now.

Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn
 

How dare you!

At a time when Ulm is fighting the demonic shock cavalry of Sangvinia, how does
Jomon dare to bring a demonic horde to Ulm's borders?! Since our very first
communications, we were very absolutely clear as to the consequences of any
demonic troops being brought to our attention.

All those serving Jomon have been declared an abomination unto Lady Elena!

Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn
 

Pfff.

Jazzepi

Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn
 

I second the Pfff.

Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn
 

Pfff is a typical demon sound. As if further proof were needed.

Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn
 

> Pfff is a typical demon sound. As if further proof were needed.

You are looking for a job in the Inquisition, or wanting to tease the Priesthood? It's not as if Ulm looks to need much excuse to declare abominations left and right!

Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn
 

Actually, Sombre is very much correct. "Pfff" is exactly the sound demons make
when a quarrel embeds itself in their gut. Our soldiers have become quite used
to the sound. And, of course, by that time, no further proof is needed.

Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn
 

Alright, I'm going AI. I'll remember to avoid pacts with people who use roleplaying as a pretext to ignore them at their convenience, not that it matters much.

Jazzepi

Very much out of character
 

Hold a freaking second! I have every single piece of correspondence ever
exchanged between the two of us. I sent you four messages:

In the first I agreed to three turns of peace, during which you would observed.
I said I would be looking for demons, undead, and blood slaves.

In the second I agreed to a three turn non-aggression pact, and once again, I
stipulated that I will not tolerate unholy activity. I asked for clarification
on one point of the agreement. You did clarify it.

In the third, I spelled out the terms, and twice I stated "We will attack if we see
demons, undead, or sacrificial slaves." I explicitly asked you to return the
signed treaty, i.e. to confirm my terms. You did not answer that message.

In the fourth, after seeing Dog Soldiers in the castle near my borders, I
pretended being unsure whether they were "the members of a strangely named
regiment, or unholy crossbreeds". I stated that I was worried that you had not
returned my previous message, that Ulm "will exit the treaty in the most
honorable manner", and would still give you the three months that the treaty
called for. I had no plans to attack, but by no means was I bound by any
treaties after those three turns.

So, Hell no, I am not ignoring any treaties! Even if you had confirmed the
treaty, which you did not, even if I had not exited it correctly, which I did,
you had the audacity to bring demons to my freaking borders, which was a
violation of the terms of the treaty, and which I made damn clear in every single
message.

I, the player, demand an apology.

Re: Very much out of character
 

Oh no, those are definitely the terms of the treaty. It's really silly though, if you look at Jomon's makeup every caster, almost all commanders, and the high morale units are demons/undead. There's no possible way for me to even come close to abiding by the terms of it. Since I'm breaking it all the time, you might as well have a free "breaking of the treaty card" ready.

Also, I didn't bring those units to you borders, you attack Sylvania and happened to stumble upon them. You ignored the fact that I had "dogmen" commanders earlier during the establishment of the treaty, and offered not to push your scouts any deeper. That seems a fairly trite convenience to me. I mean, really, if you're trying to be uber anti-demon/undead/blood sacrifice I think it is your duty to investigate with that, and other, scouts instead of just leaving it up in the air.

But however you want to play your nations is fine, and I did agree to the terms, which in my opinion you know, and I know, I could never abide by simply by the makeup of Jomon's recruitable units. I didn't mean to offend you personally, but I will be much more wary of making pacts with people who are heavy role players. I'm here to play the game itself. Role playing is not high on my list, at all.

Admittedly pretext is a bad word to use. I don't think there was any subterfuge in Tuidjy's treaty, but invariably the reason the treaty was broken is for role playing, and not strategic, reasons.

Jazzepi