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MarkSheppard January 15th, 2016 09:41 PM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 832578)
These 7.62 mm guns were capable of covering every square foot of a football field with one round, in one minute."
http://www.dc3history.org/aircraftmi...gicdragon.html

We at best can only do a 50 meter attack hex.

Fastboat; a Football Field is 48.5 m wide and 109.1 m long; so....

EDIT: Saw that others had replied to it...let's see...

MarkSheppard January 15th, 2016 09:51 PM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
Why not try using

UnitClass 215=Gunship Aircraft

combined with

Vision
Fire Control
Rangefinder

or some mix of them to alter the unit behavior of UnitClass 215?

E.g. if you have >8 Vision or whatever, do this behavior instead of the default circle strafe target hex?

It would help differentiate between the AC-47s and very early AC-119s which could only do the 'pylon circle and strafe area'; versus the more advanced later AC-119s and AC-130s which had hunter/killer capabilities.

FASTBOAT TOUGH January 16th, 2016 01:38 AM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
Mark I was allowing for the newer birds to be able to use their full compliment of weapons. This is why I recommended no more then 2-4 passes for the gunships to minimize overkill especially where the older gunships are concerned. Also in the first sentence of the para immediately below item 2) I left myself an out on the target "hex box" as well. Tried "combine" the old with the "new" as different sized target areas for each "era" of gunships wouldn't be feasible, it was a compromise in my mind.

In this thread and the patch one, I spent many hours recommending fixes and additions on the research side of things for the gunships. Unless Don and Andy are willing to spend the next year trying to come up with solution for the them, I say it's time to get rid of them and I don't think there are many more forum members that regularly post that are as passionate about all air assets as I am (Though in truth I'm that way about all "my" thread topics-maybe OK less so about the UAV one. :eek:) but...

I'd need two more slots to allow for the GHOSTRIDER gunship which is flying on the AC-130J platform within 2 years. Need one for the M1A2 SEP V3. REALLY will push again for the best fighter bomber we had in the 60's & early 70's that would be Warsaw Pact weaponized after a couple of online conversations with the pilots that flew them-that's one slot though it's about six hexes of death and destruction mech/armor/personnel. We'll have the new STRYKER to add with the 30mm RWS - there's another slot. Oh by the way we'll need to add a couple of new APACHES because my former military employer has very kindly let the ARMY use their APKWS II laser guided rockets this past year-two slots. They are/have ramped up production to also supply the ARMY.

I'm not here to over stress Don or Andy. Remember my goal for this game is "One World One OOB" my record bears that out to include doing what's right for this game which at times means sacrificing the things you like most in this case the gunships to allow for the items I've listed above and here the ARMY is looking to develop a light tank for the Airborne-could be two slots. What did you think I was totally slackly off? :rolleyes:

So how am I doing? Well my s#*t of real USA equipment has almost used the current existing slots left in the OOB with the eight I'll be asking for, ten if you count in the GHOSTRIDER. So now what's more valuable??

Don and Andy don't need my permission but I'll be good with any decision they make concerning the future of gunships in the game.

Regards,
Pat
:capt:

luigim January 16th, 2016 03:09 AM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
For example I proposed time ago to cancel EFOGM launcher that never have been in service.

DRG January 16th, 2016 10:26 AM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
Gone..anything else I can rip out ?

Suhiir January 20th, 2016 04:20 AM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 832599)
Gone..anything else I can rip out ?

I presume you've removed the LW50 from the USMC OOB?

My recommendations are:
Delete units #427, 428, 436, 437, and 986.

Unit#429 Dates 01/106-12/120
Unit#446 Dates 01/106-12/120
Unit#448 Dates 01/103/12-120
Unit#896 Dates 01/103-12/120
Unit#984 Dates 01/103-12/120

Suhiir January 20th, 2016 04:29 AM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
Pat/FASTBOAT TOUGH,

I know on 31 July, 2015 the USMC declared the F-35B operational. But I can't find anything from NavAir about it. Have you seen anything?

DRG January 20th, 2016 08:29 AM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 832613)
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 832599)
Gone..anything else I can rip out ?

I presume you've removed the LW50 from the USMC OOB?

My recommendations are:
Delete units #427, 428, 436, 437, and 986.

Unit#429 Dates 01/106-12/120
Unit#446 Dates 01/106-12/120
Unit#448 Dates 01/103/12-120
Unit#896 Dates 01/103-12/120
Unit#984 Dates 01/103-12/120

..already forgot we pushed the end dates to 2025 eh ? .......already done

DRG January 20th, 2016 08:33 AM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 832614)
Pat/FASTBOAT TOUGH,

I know on 31 July, 2015 the USMC declared the F-35B operational. But I can't find anything from NavAir about it. Have you seen anything?


http://www.marines.mil/News/NewsDisp...erational.aspx

http://www.defensenews.com/story/def...hter/30937689/

http://aviationweek.com/defense/us-m...on-operational

"31 July, 2015 the USMC declared the F-35B operational." --About 106,000 results

and then there's this..........:)

http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/06/ai...trike-fighter/

"Air Force, Marines Cancel F-35 Joint Strike Fighter"

Suhiir January 20th, 2016 09:53 AM

Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 832615)
..already forgot we pushed the end dates to 2025 eh ? .......already done

Actually ... yes.
Guess alzheimer's is catching up with me.


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