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rdonj October 3rd, 2009 04:47 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, God Design, AI Creation.
 
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Originally Posted by Septimius Severus (Post 713146)
I'm curious, what unique starting requirements will make them more findable other than altering the .rgb file to include something that would certainly point out their location? We will know that by default the #1 and #2 players will be placed forward, and we will know the starts, but we will not know which team is placed north, south, east, or west of the AI center. That is the way I'd like to keep it. :)

By making a map with pre-set start locations, any player whose start location is specifically set is easily able to be found simply by reding the .map file, or by loading up a game with all players set as human. There's no way you can avoid that afaik.

Septimius Severus October 3rd, 2009 05:17 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, God Design, AI Creation.
 
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Originally Posted by rdonj (Post 713156)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Septimius Severus (Post 713146)
I'm curious, what unique starting requirements will make them more findable other than altering the .rgb file to include something that would certainly point out their location? We will know that by default the #1 and #2 players will be placed forward, and we will know the starts, but we will not know which team is placed north, south, east, or west of the AI center. That is the way I'd like to keep it. :)

By making a map with pre-set start locations, any player whose start location is specifically set is easily able to be found simply by reding the .map file, or by loading up a game with all players set as human. There's no way you can avoid that afaik.

Reading the map file? Remember, only the server will have the copy with the specstarts not the players. So they won't have advance knowledge of which individual nation is in each start except via the default placement mentioned.

Pyg, your right, a player could right-click around all the other starting locations till he sees a land province with a sea terrain icon, but it'd be less conspicuous than a single sea looking province in the midst of a completely land map.

If one of us can't do it or wants to do it, I've got you down as volunteering. I want to thank you anyway. It would mean everyone re-downloading the map however. Now lets hear from Agema, regarding whether he's keeping Fomoria or we remove it from the running. He can certainly keep it, since it's not a game breaker, just a minor nuisance. But I don't know enough about any possible economic side effects of a neigboring sea province to tell him to do one thing or the other.

I just did some of my own quick tests and yep, Formoria won't hold a specstart, but they will start fine randomly on land provinces without any sea neighbors. Weird.

Frozen Lama October 3rd, 2009 05:20 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, God Design, AI Creation.
 
the "economic" downside to having one sea neighbor is pretty negligible. i say lets just get on with the game please.

Septimius Severus October 3rd, 2009 05:37 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, God Design, AI Creation.
 
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Originally Posted by Frozen Lama (Post 713163)
the "economic" downside to having one sea neighbor is pretty negligible. i say lets just get on with the game please.

Amen brother! And you and Maerlande are on my team, so I guess if Maerlande feels the same, 3 votes outweighs waiting for our captain's decision.

We keep Formoria.

Let the swaps begin OFFICIALLY then huh?.:up::D

Frozen Lama October 3rd, 2009 05:40 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, God Design, AI Creation.
 
can i officially ask to swap Yomi for Caelum? Agema isn't on enough to be reliable.

Septimius Severus October 3rd, 2009 05:47 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, God Design, AI Creation.
 
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Originally Posted by Frozen Lama (Post 713169)
can i officially ask to swap Yomi for Caelum? Agema isn't on enough to be reliable.

Why yes, you may.:D I won't make players wait for the captains, though it is recommended that players at least get the consensus of their team mates.

Wait, though, we are using method 2. So caelum is not up for grabs unless the Deva's officially drop it (now that I've announced that swaps may begin and we have *settled* the issue with Formoria).

Currently available:

Abysia
Pangaea
Marverni
Agartha
C'tis

Frozen Lama October 3rd, 2009 05:52 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, God Design, AI Creation.
 
ok, pangea then. btw, i'm assuming that you will be playing Formoria sept?

Septimius Severus October 3rd, 2009 05:58 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, God Design, AI Creation.
 
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Originally Posted by Frozen Lama (Post 713173)
ok, pangea then. btw, i'm assuming that you will be playing Formoria sept?

Pangaea you may have. Yomi is now up for grabs.

I shall take whatever my great captain gives me (and whatever others on our team don't want). He is still our captain (forgive me players). Maybe you need to speak with Agema about your taking over the captaincy. It's almost mutiny.:shock:

Currently available:

Abysia
Marverni
Agartha
C'tis
Yomi

DrPraetorious October 3rd, 2009 06:33 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, Design, AI Creation.
 
Okay - actually, we already asked to trade Caelum for Pangaea?!?!?!

As I said repeatedly? I appreciate that it's first-come-first-served, but we made this request twice already while we were heeing and hawing over a tie-breaking procedure that had no effect on this.... pyg21 has already been testing Pangaea builds...

Maerlande October 3rd, 2009 06:50 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Assignment, Design, AI Creation.
 
No wait, misunderstanding Dr.P. We would PREFER Caelum. I'm sure FL agrees. So you picking Pangaea is good by us.


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