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Soyweiser February 17th, 2012 03:54 PM
Re: Conceptual Balance Mod v1.92
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shangrila00 (Post 795861)
If you have sages, every year a bunch of them will get diseased at which point they might as well be used to possess something. Occasionally, you'll get a diseased astral Black Priest. And sure, recruiting an Illuminated One solely for possession costs a fort turn, but so does recruiting a thug for nations that have them. It'll be worth it if the result is good enough. Not sure a Demon Knight would be worth it, but there should be something useful.
Recycling diseased mages is marginal. (And you never get them at the moment you want them). And recruiting thugs from forts instead of mages is suboptimal anyway. See the assassin discussions :D.

Demon knights are meh, get the devils. Able to command other demons, and flies. Flying rocks.

(Most recruitable thugs are mages, so they have dual role).

Torgon February 17th, 2012 07:08 PM
Re: Conceptual Balance Mod v1.92
 
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Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 795903)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shangrila00 (Post 795861)
If you have sages, every year a bunch of them will get diseased at which point they might as well be used to possess something. Occasionally, you'll get a diseased astral Black Priest. And sure, recruiting an Illuminated One solely for possession costs a fort turn, but so does recruiting a thug for nations that have them. It'll be worth it if the result is good enough. Not sure a Demon Knight would be worth it, but there should be something useful.
Recycling diseased mages is marginal. (And you never get them at the moment you want them). And recruiting thugs from forts instead of mages is suboptimal anyway. See the assassin discussions :D.

Demon knights are meh, get the devils. Able to command other demons, and flies. Flying rocks.

(Most recruitable thugs are mages, so they have dual role).
Where is the assassin discussion?

Shangrila00 February 18th, 2012 01:29 PM
Re: Conceptual Balance Mod v1.92
 
Question, are all heroes in CBM supposed to have 3 miscellaneous slots? Ie, is a hero with only 2 slots an oversight or intended?

Torgon February 18th, 2012 08:35 PM
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Edit: never mind original post not accurate

Ragnarok-X February 22nd, 2012 03:40 PM
Re: Conceptual Balance Mod v1.92
 
Machaka needs some loaf.

kianduatha February 23rd, 2012 02:35 AM
Re: Conceptual Balance Mod v1.92
 
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Originally Posted by Ragnarok-X (Post 796442)
Machaka needs some loaf.
Still? What weaknesses do you see in the modern Machaka?

Ragnarok-X February 24th, 2012 07:08 PM
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needs more variance, its not about a specific weakness.
That, and a fix for the bad spider sprite.

kianduatha February 24th, 2012 09:16 PM
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Bad spider sprite? What's all that?

More variance as in it's too one-trick-pony-ish? I suppose they only get high nature/fire/earth/death, but that's a decent amount of stuff. You have to prioritize getting a wasteland to get Hidden in Sand astral(or spend a bunch of death gems for specters), but you can get that up too. It's pretty frustrating that they get max N3 and D2(realistically), but you can still deal with that.

Speaking of which, is the Treelord's Staff going to go down to N4? 40 gems is...a lot.

kianduatha February 24th, 2012 09:46 PM
Re: Conceptual Balance Mod v1.92
 
Witch Doctors should totally get heal-20 or something. In their description they heal the sick!

Soyweiser February 26th, 2012 03:21 PM
Re: Conceptual Balance Mod v1.92
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Torgon (Post 795925)
Where is the assassin discussion?
Can't find a link, but assassins as recruits when you could have recruited mages has been discussed to death.

I think recruitable assassins are not worth it.


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