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Esben Mose Hansen May 18th, 2004 06:35 PM

Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
 
Feedback on my latest endeavor on the server would be welcome. To quote myself:

Pretender protection, stage 1 implemented:

From now on, pretenders cannot be overwritten from within the game. For each nation, the first pretender to be uploaded will be squirreled away in a safe place and restored just before the game starts. In other words, you can no longer steal somebodys position.

This could be problematic if somebody WANTED a pretender overwritten. To accomplish this, the game owner/creator now have the option to "kick all anonymous players" from the game. So to give up a position, just mark it as Anonymous and ask the game owner to kick all anonymous players.

Kicking anonymous players before game start would probably be a sensible move in any case to avoid AWOL players. Or at least learning which players tend to go AWOL.

This also means that being Anonymous is risky business, as it stands. If you have a problem with this, please let me know.

Norfleet May 18th, 2004 06:39 PM

Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
 
What if somebody wants to overwrite himself? You should include the option for somebody who has claimed a slot to kick himself from the game.

Esben Mose Hansen May 18th, 2004 06:59 PM

Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
 
Sorry Norfleet --- can't be done, since kicking somebody from the game involves a restart of the game server.

I only want game owners to be able to restart games, though I could easily change that. That is why it is done the way it is. Alternate solution are welcome, especially if it includes a patch http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

2 thing to keep in mind:

1. You can still kick yourself if you can contact the game owner: Mark yourself as Anonymous, contact the game owner and ask him to kick Anonymous players. Tough luck for those who wants to remain Anonymous, however.

2. Manual upload of your own pretender .2h file will be possible in the future. That way you could overwrite your own Pretender.

P.S: Careful with that word, "should". In the OSS world, that word can hang you out to dry real good. I've seen it happen and it's not a pretty sight.

Graeme Dice May 18th, 2004 08:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Esben Mose Hansen:
This could be problematic if somebody WANTED a pretender overwritten.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I almost always want to overwrite my pretender, so I hope you implement an easier method for this soon.

Esben Mose Hansen May 18th, 2004 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Esben Mose Hansen:
This could be problematic if somebody WANTED a pretender overwritten.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I almost always want to overwrite my pretender, so I hope you implement an easier method for this soon. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm a bit confused. Why would you do that? I'm guessing that you don't want to risk the nation taken while you are creating a pretender, but I would like to know. Makes it easier making the right design.

Gandalf Parker May 18th, 2004 11:20 PM

Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
 
Its not uncommon for me to create a pretender then immeadiately regret something. And sometimes I will see how the joining is going and want to make changes to prepare for the opponents I will face.

But usually if Im stuck with my first one I can do that. Its a batter option than having overwrites, for now.

Graeme Dice May 18th, 2004 11:45 PM

Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Esben Mose Hansen:
I'm a bit confused. Why would you do that? I'm guessing that you don't want to risk the nation taken while you are creating a pretender, but I would like to know. Makes it easier making the right design.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I overwrite pretenders because I often change my mind about how I want them to be setup. This is also highly dependent on what opponents I will be facing.

Zapmeister May 19th, 2004 12:11 AM

Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
 
Esben, this is a huge step forward.
Thanks for your continuing efforts to make automated serving available to the Dominions community.

Reverend Zombie May 21st, 2004 03:54 AM

Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
 
I got a "nagot gick fell" (or whatever) in the Pascentiful game after completing my Last turn, and the game seems to have hung...

Norfleet May 21st, 2004 04:01 AM

Re: New & raw web based Dominion II game server
 
Yes, I'm *****ing at Cohen about it right now.


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