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Captain Kwok September 22nd, 2006 04:52 PM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
It's certainly a sore spot. But the infrastructure in the interface is more or less there to add it back in - albeit not for the release, but perhaps a significant patch down the road.

Pocus September 24th, 2006 05:31 AM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
There is a big UI problem that stands in my way, its the way the units are NOT stacked in the planets & ships cargo. Even the turn log will tell you that you have produced 30 units with 30 messages. Quite strange that it bothers just me.

Aside that, the battle engine stutters quite a lot, am I alone with the problem?

(still a great game)

AMF September 24th, 2006 06:34 AM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
Bothers everyone, I think. Email your issues to MM and ask Aaron to fix it, if enough people do so he might correct it.

Graeme Dice September 25th, 2006 01:51 AM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
Actually, you are in a vast majority...

And you know this, how? Frankly, I'd much rather have the current system than the horribly unbalanced and gamey mess that was present in SE4.

Fyron September 25th, 2006 02:46 AM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
I know this because I have talked to a lot of people about it. We could run a poll if you like. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

There was nothing wrong with the system in SE4, other than some not balanced costs in the stock game. Once you balanced the costs, the characteristic system worked really well. Much, much better than the crappy trait cost setup in the stock SE5 game, which is more unbalanced than even the stock SE4 setup was.

Kamog September 25th, 2006 02:56 AM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
Adjustable racial characteristics would be nice! More flexibility and choices are preferable to the limited selections available in the present setup.

Raapys September 25th, 2006 07:32 AM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
I agree, the SE4 system was neat with both traits and characteristics. Balance can always be tweaked, but removing the characteristics feature completely just limits the player's options, which isn't a good thing.

se5a September 25th, 2006 08:18 AM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
se5 current set up is just as, if not more unbalancing than se4 system.

StarShadow September 25th, 2006 02:54 PM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
Quote:

Kamog said:
Adjustable racial characteristics would be nice! More flexibility and choices are preferable to the limited selections available in the present setup.

I agree. It was the race/trait setup in SEIV that made it so easy to like(for me), I love RPG's and having an RPG element in SEIV made it much easier to get into.

arthurtuxedo September 25th, 2006 04:21 PM

Re: SEV DEMO IS OUT!
 
Personally, I think people are mostly bemoaning the lack of the sliders simply because they were used to them. The current system may be just as unbalanced and crappy, but it is at least fundamentally sound. Sliders are a flawed idea from the get-go. +/- one percent to anything doesn't (or at least shouldn't) make much difference. Even +/- five percent is really peanuts. All the sliders did was make it very difficult to properly balance and encourage min-max powergaming. The current system may be just as unbalanced, but we are almost definitely going to see more balanced mods as a result of the new approach.


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