Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If there was a Dog who condemned people to eternal damnation in fire for not worshiping him, that Dog doesn't deserve to be worshipped.

He'd be a sadist of the worst non-consensual kind, insane, and malicious. Of course, the Bible does give some supporting evidence.

After all - a being who could design and create all the things in the universe singlehandedly would, beyond all doubt or question, be a genius of divine magnitude.

On a good day, his finest creations might well be perfection itself, or damn near. And the finest of these near perfect creations, these ... angels, might see that his creator, his overlord, was in fact a certifiable pathological monster, and rebel against him.

Lucifer, anyone?

(And anyone who both believes hir Bible to be the exact holy writ of Dog, _and_ doesn't believe God to be a monster, hasn't read very carefully. Infants slaughtered by divine decree, god approving of children being torn into pieces for mocking one of his holy prophets (one of the _very_ few who supposed was "ascended" directly into heaven without having to die first) Even the Divine Lottery - if you were born in ... Italy, you go to heaven. If you were born in .. China - hell. If you had a priest at your deathbed - heaven. If you didn't - hell. If (back in the old day) you had enough lambs to sacrifice - heaven. Too poor to own lambs? Hell.)

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Getting bored? That would suggest that god is actually sentient in a human way. It is easy to imagine god as an elderly man with a long beard, so we can actually understand him. But maybe got is much more abstract than we can imagine. Maybe "god" is just a mathematical term that defines the laws of nature. Or maybe god is the complete soulmatter of every living being, including you and me?

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You want me to show you a site you can buy some of this stuff?

http://www.coldwarremarketing.com/

Go get your own. They're not THAT hard to get, you know.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No thanks. Why don't you post picture of YOU on top of your tank instead, in your undeground bunker? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif That would be at least *some* proof to your lunatic claims. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think you may have greatly exaggerated the magnitude of the actual shootout. It doesn't work that way in real life. Too many movies for you, Storm. [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am just repeating you own words silly, in case you have forgoten already. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif You said you have used LAWS weapons to blown up cars with some unknown dudes on the highway, who were shooting at you with their automatic weapons for no apparent reason. Perhaps too much Holywood did influenced your unstable mind, but I have no way of telling.

[ July 29, 2004, 01:26: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I can't think of any other analogue that would explain why a being would willfully create the universe, an object which seems to serve no particular purpose.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, but if this is the case, then "god" as defined in any religious text, does not exist, since a mathematical term is not a being.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That also doesn't fit the depiction as given by mainstream religion. Once again, such a thing is not a position to possess any sort of volition or ability to act independently, or to perform acts such as creating the universe, or consigning people to burn in hell for all eternity.

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Even if I wanted to do such a thing, who would hold the camera?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, I did not. I said I attempted to aim one at such an enemy vehicle, but did not get a clean line of fire, so didn't actually fire it. I also never said that dudes on the highway were firing automatic weapons at me. They appeared to be armed with standard, semi-automatic pistols and rifles. You are greatly exaggerating the case, as I said. Small shootouts like this happen with not-uncommon frequency.

[ July 29, 2004, 01:31: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Does it not? Lets take Budhism. If a soul has experienced everything there is to experience (after it has lived many lifes), it dissolves into Brahman, which is actually beginning and end of everything at once. I am not sure whether Brahman is supposed to be a sentient being. In any case, its much less prone to logical errors than our religion(in my case catholic).

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh yeah, many's the week I've had to run and gun my way through packs of drunken welfare hoboes (who have kept themselves alive on universal medicare) armed with 38 specials and rusty kitchen knives on my way home from work.

Thank god I can sit down an play Dominions 2 to take the edge off.

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Even if I wanted to do such a thing, who would hold the camera?

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ROFL. This is the lamest excuse I ever heard. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif You may take a cigar. Ever heard of auto-shoot cameras? Where you set up a few seconds timer and go "cheese"? Even cheapest soapbox cameras have it these days. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Or better just ask your parents to press a button, frankly I am starting to believe the Graeme's "stupid teenager living with his parents" Version, based upon your recent Posts.


<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, I did not. I said I attempted to aim one at such an enemy vehicle, but did not get a clean line of fire, so didn't actually fire it. I also never said that dudes on the highway were firing automatic weapons at me. They appeared to be armed with standard, semi-automatic pistols and rifles. You are greatly exaggerating the case, as I said. Small shootouts like this happen with not-uncommon frequency. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's not how you described it. You really have to remeber your nut stories better, you know. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ July 29, 2004, 03:55: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

[quote]Originally posted by Stormbinder:

Quote:

ROFL. This is the lamest excuse I ever heard. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif You may take a cigar. Ever heard of auto-shoot cameras? Where you set up a few seconds timer and go "cheese"? Even cheapest soapbox cameras have it these days. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Or better just ask your parents to press a button, frankly I am starting to believe the Graeme's "stupid teenager living with his parents" Version, based upon your recent Posts.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So, Stormwhiner - do you get wood when insulting your obsession? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, but this still necessitates I have somebody or something *AIM* and *HOLD* the camera. They don't just hover in the air, you know.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Given that you never listen to anything I say anyway, it's clearly your memory that is at fault here.