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Ragnarok June 26th, 2003 12:42 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ragnarok vs. Mathias_Ice

2407.7 - The battle for first place has been back and forth the past dozen turns or so. This past turn I just sent my fleet of 55 ships through the warp point to find out that he has a huge fleet waiting for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif He managed to destroy all my ships while his fleet was over half destroyed I do believe. That leaves him in first place for the time being. Another massive fleet is being built on my side of the warp point and I'm sure if he comes through anytime soon that he'll pay for it. *evil grin* This game is becoming more and more interesting as it goes on and I'm loving it. It's a challange fighting from my position but I don't mind. I'm learning things from it that's for sure.

More updates as they become available. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky June 26th, 2003 01:01 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Ragnarok vs. Mathias_Ice

2407.7

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sounds like it's turning into a real nail-biter. I ALWAYS get worried and nervous when fleets that size wander into battles. It always helps not to put all of one's eggs...er...ships in one basket...er...fleet.

Sounds like you guys are having fun!

Ragnarok June 26th, 2003 01:05 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Ragnarok vs. Mathias_Ice

2407.7

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sounds like it's turning into a real nail-biter. I ALWAYS get worried and nervous when fleets that size wander into battles. It always helps not to put all of one's eggs...er...ships in one basket...er...fleet.

Sounds like you guys are having fun!
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Indeed we are having fun. Or at least I am. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It appears I have held off as long as I can. My fate is about to come before me. He busted through the warp point where the battles have taken place. My small fleet was able to take out and damage a few ships but still 25 remain. Then in another system he busted through there with a fleet of 17 ships. I do not have any more fleets that can take these ships on; so it is about over. I will post a image of the map in my next update.

Ships are being built at a frantic pace on my side but it is not going to be enough. I feel my ships are superior in design but not having the economy from such a small section of the galaxy being mine hurt me in the size of fleet I was able to support. I will continue to fight but it will be hard at this point as I doubt I'll ever be able to go on the offensive with him attacking my interior systems. But this game has been one sweet game that I will remember for awhile. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

geoschmo June 26th, 2003 01:17 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Geoschmo vs Cheeze 2406.3

Grand Lord Ikul speaks

People of the Imperium. I come before you today on the occasion of a great battle during the course of a great and terrible war. A war for our liberty, our property, our very lives. The enemy that we face is a clever and determined foe. It will take all the efforts of every one of us if we are to be victorious. However, we must be victorious. Failure is not an option.

Recently the enemy launched an offensive in great force into the Xiria system. The defenders fought valiantly, but were greatly outnumbered overrun. A key strategic planet was captured and the population enslaved.

The Floral fleet then moved on deeper into our empire, into the great impenatrable darkness of the Eskirk nebulae. Beyond this were two paths open to them, both equally dangerous for our people. If the invadres were allowed to get past this point there would be little or nothing to stop the complete ravaging of our great empire.

Task Force Defoliant was pulled out of position from the front lines and sent to intercept this fleet. A quarter of the distance accross the quadrant they rushed. Low on fuel they took up position in the Pawtril system and awaited their fate.

Never in the course of Memnorak events have so many owed so much to so few. At the cost of a great number of our valiant warriors the enemy fleet was completely routed.

If the Memnorak Imperium lives for thousand years, men will speak of this battle in hushed tones. Truely, they will say, this was their finest hour.

Rollo June 26th, 2003 01:38 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
As the Vikings storm the hill in drunken rage and pillage the old Graceland Palace, no brick is left on top the other.
King Rollo arrives with his personal guard of four Valkyrjars in Mark3 'Copacabana' Body Armor and slaps his forehead: "Just splendid, folks... Can anyone tell me where we are gonna crash tonite?"
The Vikings look around sheepishly and some start whisteling.
"Oh well, might as well use our remaining supplies and party all night."
Transports pull in and begin to unload countless kegs of beer, mead, and other kinds of intoxicants from all over the known universe. The crowd begins to cheer. Animals are skewered up and are roasted over the fires of the old palace.
"A speech, a speech..!", the crowd demands.

King Rollo rolls his eyes, as he is not a man of many words, and swears under his breath "okay, okay, might as well".
He steps upon a shield and is lifted high above the crowd:
"Ahem... I never doubted we would be here. And noone deserves this more than me!"
The crowd cheers again and it is a moving sight as some old Vikings wipe some tears from their eyes: "Oh my. Our King is so humble..."

King Rollo steps down from the shield and gives out orders. Let's not forget our worthy adversaries along the hill. They must be thirsty too. A group of Vikings begins to send kegs of beer rolling down the sides of the hill, which pick up terrifying speed after a short while: "Heads up, down there!"

The newly crowned king wakes up the next day with a splitting headache wearing only his crown and a t-shirt which reads: "I stormed the Graceland Palace and all I got was a peanut butter and banana sandwich."

--------------------------------

Thank you all for your congrats,
Rollo

Baron Grazic June 26th, 2003 01:56 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Go, Mathias_Ice, Go
Come on Rags, join us at the bottom again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ June 26, 2003, 00:57: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

Stone Mill June 26th, 2003 01:56 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Good accounts, Rags. Sorry about the impending doom, but it sounded like lots of tactical fun.

Usually, if you have the tech edge, all may not be lost, even though it looks bleak. Some players like to sacrifice research in favor of minerals.

Now, if he has way more ships than you and better tech (thanks, Rollo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), your butt is in trouble.

Ragnarok June 26th, 2003 02:14 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stone Mill:
Good accounts, Rags. Sorry about the impending doom, but it sounded like lots of tactical fun.

Usually, if you have the tech edge, all may not be lost, even though it looks bleak. Some players like to sacrifice research in favor of minerals.

Now, if he has way more ships than you and better tech (thanks, Rollo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), your butt is in trouble.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got the tech advantage I'm sure. I have Cruisers with PPB Vs, while he has LCs and DUC Vs. He just has about twice as many ships as me so his numbers will swarm me anyday. I think I could've got this game had I not sent that ship into the warp point and lost it. If I had just helf back longer and built more of a fleet and went with my other plan of going through a different warp point then this would be a different looking game.

Ragnarok June 27th, 2003 05:07 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ragnarok vs. Mathias_Ice

Guess what folks; it's turn 104. Yes, I have survived another 100 turn game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Anyway, to the update...Mathias is still going on the offensive and wiping a couple of my systems clean but I have managed to scrap together another fleet real quick like and have taken out 2 of his fleets now. (Thanks to the defending warp point first shot setting) He now has another fleet of 47 ships heading my direction with his new top of the line Cruisers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I will attempt to defende myself but the end is near. I am only delaying my fate with each passing turn. I do believe that my cruisers still outmatch his cruisers with no problems as his new cruiser ships still only have DUC Vs (at least theo nes I've seen so far) and I have PPB Vs. I think that if I had the economy to continue defending my current colonies, to keep building on my fleet and to defend another expansion effort that I could do it due to that fact that I out tech Mathias. But alas, I don't have the economy to do such a thing so I will await my final death. I'll update again when the game is over. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Great game!

Ragnarok June 27th, 2003 05:43 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ragnarok vs. Mathias_Ice

Game date 2410.7 (Turn 107)- I have officially surrendered to Mathias. I held off as long as I could but he busted through my Last fleet Last turn and I have nothing else. He is blockading my home world and I only have a few colonies left.

Comments - Simply put: wow! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif This was on heck of a game and I loved every minute of it. It was the most fun losing I've had on the hill. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif Mathias, you played a great game and I commend you for it. Not too much I can suggest other then what we talked about during the game. Good luck on the crest of the hill! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala, please delete our game and move Mathias up and me back down with the bottom dwellers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Thanks!

Baron Grazic June 27th, 2003 05:45 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Sorry for your loss Rags, but at least I now have an opponent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Standard Game, ALPU, with one of Tesco's maps for an even start?

Ragnarok June 27th, 2003 05:48 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Sorry for your loss Rags, but at least I now have an opponent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Standard Game, ALPU, with one of Tesco's maps for an even start?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sounds good to me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Especially the even start part. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Baron Grazic June 27th, 2003 05:50 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
It's a shame Asmala seems off-line, or we could be starting now... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Ragnarok June 27th, 2003 05:51 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
It's a shame Asmala seems off-line, or we could be starting now... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...Give me some time to catch my breath! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif No, if he were Online that would be cool to get right into the heat of things. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Mathias_Ice June 27th, 2003 06:07 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ragnarok vs Mathias Ice

WOW!!! What a game! I can't believe Ragnarok held out as long as he did. How did you manage to keep ahead on research? That still has me scratching my head.(The PPB V's were on their way.) Considering I controlled 3/4 of the galaxy for most of the game it seems to me I should have been able to end it sooner than I did. Chalk that up to newbie cautiousness. Ragnarok mentioned a while back that he initially felt confident about his opening position. I thought that was kind of ironic because my first thought at starting this match was "Oh no, he's gonna be right be on top me."

Thanks for a great game, Ragnarok!

"Movin' on up"

Mathias Ice

geoschmo June 27th, 2003 06:10 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
You guys could always start the game yourselves. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Of course you may end up not being matched. You don't know who might have sent an email to Asmala in the mean time that might end up playing against Grazic.

Ragnarok June 27th, 2003 06:26 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
You guys could always start the game yourselves. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Of course you may end up not being matched. You don't know who might have sent an email to Asmala in the mean time that might end up playing against Grazic.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmm, I didn't even think of that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif That would work as long as no one else joined or other games have ended that we know about.

Quote:

Originally posted by Mathias_Ice
How did you manage to keep ahead on research? That still has me scratching my head.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't know either. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I guess I just had most of my research centers in the middle of my empire allowing me to keep researching even though you were taking out some of my outer planets. When battles were not taking place I guess I just research in a way that allowed me to get 2 or 3 techs while you were researching a bigger item? I really don't know about that one, but I did have a good research base going for me that certainly helped prolong the end. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Joachim June 27th, 2003 06:50 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Heh KOTH gang - this thread is excellent so I couldn't resist stepping out from behind the peasants and gazing upon the hill in desire...

Gandalph V Joachim

Only done my empire, just waiting on getting to my home 'puter to do the first turn. But, Empire set up was very hard, knowing that it would be quick and nasty makes for a very different empire construction! Hopefully I will learn heaps from you guys as I grub around the bottom of the hill!

Stay tuned for more peasant updates...

Baron Grazic June 27th, 2003 07:59 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Greetings to Joachim, from a fellew peasant. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Do a search for a forum called "Koth Clone" which talks about the best Koth setup. Somewhere deap in this thread would be setup options too.
Make sure you seriously think about maxing Combat Attack & Defense, Construction & Maintenance.
But then again, I'm on the bottom of the hill so that doesn't mean my setup is best http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif , and besides I am still changing my Empire from game to game...

Rags - I'm going away for the weekend, might be able to get on-line but doubt it, so start on Monday, assuming we are matched of course. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Edit - Sorry should have said Oz weekend, in about 1 hour...

[ June 27, 2003, 07:04: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

DavidG June 27th, 2003 12:30 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Greetings to Joachim, from a fellew peasant. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Do a search for a forum called "Koth Clone" which talks about the best Koth setup. Somewhere deap in this thread would be setup options too.
Make sure you seriously think about maxing Combat Attack & Defense, Construction & Maintenance.
But then again, I'm on the bottom of the hill so that doesn't mean my setup is best http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif , and besides I am still changing my Empire from game to game...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And most important of all (IMO), assume your ships are useless cannon foder untill they are trained to 20% and in a fleet trained to 20%

DavidG June 27th, 2003 12:33 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by geoschmo:
You guys could always start the game yourselves. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Of course you may end up not being matched. You don't know who might have sent an email to Asmala in the mean time that might end up playing against Grazic.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmm, I didn't even think of that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif That would work as long as no one else joined or other games have ended that we know about.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OH well Kazarp def. Phoenix-D. (couple days ago)

Stone Mill June 27th, 2003 12:39 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Joachim:
Heh KOTH gang - this thread is excellent so I couldn't resist stepping out from behind the peasants and gazing upon the hill in desire...

Gandalph V Joachim

Only done my empire, just waiting on getting to my home 'puter to do the first turn. But, Empire set up was very hard, knowing that it would be quick and nasty makes for a very different empire construction! Hopefully I will learn heaps from you guys as I grub around the bottom of the hill!

Stay tuned for more peasant updates...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Welcome... and I agree with the sound advice offered by Baron and DavidG... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I'm not sure of your skill level, but Gandalph is a player that has come a looong way. If you are a beginner, at the least, you will learn quite a bit from him. There are some common tactics used on KOTH that are pretty well refined... and deadly... but it's about fun and sportsmanship. Good Luck!

[ June 27, 2003, 11:43: Message edited by: Stone Mill ]

Stone Mill June 27th, 2003 12:54 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Ragnarok vs. Mathias_Ice

Game date 2410.7 (Turn 107)- I have officially surrendered to Mathias. I held off as long as I could but he busted through my Last fleet Last turn and I have nothing else. He is blockading my home world and I only have a few colonies left.

Comments - Simply put: wow! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif This was on heck of a game and I loved every minute of it. It was the most fun losing I've had on the hill. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif Mathias, you played a great game and I commend you for it. Not too much I can suggest other then what we talked about during the game. Good luck on the crest of the hill! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala, please delete our game and move Mathias up and me back down with the bottom dwellers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Thanks!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Rags,
Now that your match is ended... I would like to offer some thoughts, if I may...

Consider that when an attacker know he has you on the defensive, he smells blood. Especially if he knows his fleets are gaining ground despite some losses. This is a situation of eventual doom.

Consider this- a strategy called "End run," used by some of the pros here (I believe Geo and some others give good accounts). It pretty much entails giving the attacker something to worry about when he thinks he has you down and out (and he does).

This is a low percentage move, but it does throw a wrench in the works. Wage war against the enemy's planets, not his ships. Commit a portion of your defense to offense. Yes this will mean leaving a system defenseless, which you will have to fall back and make a stand deeper with whatever you can... but if you choose not to engage the attacker's fleets and give him some pain, you make the attacker make some interesting choices. You may get him to turn around and chase you. You may frag enough of his planets to hurt his economy... maybe riot... and he won't be able to afford maintanance on his once great fleets.

Anyway... a morsel to consider. Hope you don't mind. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Joachim June 27th, 2003 05:30 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Thanks for the welcomes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
I did scan through this thread for hints - but as you know it is long. But spotted some cute ideas I will have to put into practice in my other games.
As for Empire set - I'll comment when I run into Gandalph! Turn 4 no discovery... Yet.

geoschmo June 27th, 2003 05:46 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Geoschmo vs Cheeze, 2406.9

Deja Vu all over again.

For those of you that remember my epic battle with GozGuy this one is shaping up to be something similer. Here's the map.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newup...1056728051.bmp

All the red circles are my systems, although not every one has planets of course. Everything else I assume to be his systems, although probably not all those have planets either.

System A is one of mine for now, but Cheeze has a moderate sized fleet tearing it up and i have little in the way of defenses to stop him. System B is a Cheeze system and I have a large fleet doing the same to him. It's starting to feel like the ring around the rosey that GozGuy and I played for a while.

I believe I have been in first place for every turn, but that hasn't stopped Cheeze from dealing me several serious blows. Capturing planets, wiping out fleets, etc.

If I had to pick, I would say I have a slight advantage at this point. Mainly because I know where his Homesystem is (C) and and I have a pretty good size fleet fairly close to it. I don't know how much he has there to defend it, but I know how much I have, and I know how much he is throwing against me in the North. So for me to still be in first place he can't have all that much anywhere else. At least that's what I am telling myself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Techwise I'd call it even. He might have a slight edge. Unfortunatly though I have allowed him to live long enough to develop his organic technology. I am starting to see organic armor and some decent Organic weapons. If that trend continues I could have some problems.

He has yet to counter a single intel project that I have thrown at him. Mostly I have been doing nuisance projects so perhaps he has just decided to ignore them. The only one that has failed was a crew insurrection I pulled on a carrier that I blew up in combat the same turn the project completed. Ah well...

Geoschmo

Ragnarok June 27th, 2003 06:22 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stone Mill
Rags,
Now that your match is ended... I would like to offer some thoughts, if I may...

Consider that when an attacker know he has you on the defensive, he smells blood. Especially if he knows his fleets are gaining ground despite some losses. This is a situation of eventual doom.

Consider this- a strategy called "End run," used by some of the pros here (I believe Geo and some others give good accounts). It pretty much entails giving the attacker something to worry about when he thinks he has you down and out (and he does).

This is a low percentage move, but it does throw a wrench in the works. Wage war against the enemy's planets, not his ships. Commit a portion of your defense to offense. Yes this will mean leaving a system defenseless, which you will have to fall back and make a stand deeper with whatever you can... but if you choose not to engage the attacker's fleets and give him some pain, you make the attacker make some interesting choices. You may get him to turn around and chase you. You may frag enough of his planets to hurt his economy... maybe riot... and he won't be able to afford maintanance on his once great fleets.

Anyway... a morsel to consider. Hope you don't mind. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I will have to remember those tips. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I certainly do not mind at all and maybe they will help me get above the middle of the hill (haven't been further then there) sometime. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif I have a book writtin on KOTH stratagies basically that I look at every now and then to find new tips for myself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Its came in handy a couple times now.

Slynky June 27th, 2003 06:51 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Geoschmo vs Cheeze, 2406.9

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ahhhh, a MAP! Makes understanding things so much easier. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I see you have the lion's share of the galaxy but it's hard to tell what kind of planets Cheese has sunk his teeth into.

Also, interesting that Cheese is organic (pardon the pun).

Sounds like the game has some give and take in it even after Cheese's original comments that things didn't look so good.

Slynky June 27th, 2003 08:20 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Stone Mill
Rags,
Now that your match is ended... I would like to offer some thoughts, if I may...


<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I certainly do not mind at all and maybe they will help me get above the middle of the hill (haven't been further then there) sometime. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I certainly don't want it to seem as if I think I know it all ('cause I don't) and I certainly don't want Mathias to think all the tips to you are because we wanted you to win (it's really because you just wrote the most)...so...having said that, I'll ask this:

Since you had the tech advantage, were you in a position to convert some research to resource producers? Even 80's and 90's would have helped, I'm thinking.

Ragnarok June 27th, 2003 08:56 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:

Since you had the tech advantage, were you in a position to convert some research to resource producers? Even 80's and 90's would have helped, I'm thinking.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I used just about everything for resources towards the end. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I had some 50's and a couple 40's out there. I probably could've converted some research centers into resource producers I just didn't. Just 1 of many mistakes I made during this game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala June 27th, 2003 09:44 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
The KOTH page is now updated and new games created. I'll be out of town and unable to reach net till Tuesday so you'll have to wait till that before I can kick off the games.

geoschmo June 27th, 2003 10:23 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
For the ones where you have already created teh game on PBW and just needs the first turn done once they get their .emp files in I can do that if you want. They can post here or email me. But as far as reporting wins/losses, updating the Koth page, or getting new opponents that can wait till you get back. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

Asmala June 27th, 2003 10:28 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
For the ones where you have already created teh game on PBW and just needs the first turn done once they get their .emp files in I can do that if you want. They can post here or email me. But as far as reporting wins/losses, updating the Koth page, or getting new opponents that can wait till you get back. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I you can do the first turn it'll be great. I'll be away after this message so I can't redirect any game setting Messages.

Slynky June 27th, 2003 10:34 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I see I get to be paired against the 2nd highest-rated KOTH player, DavidG.

To "see" my reaction, picture tears streaming from one of Mr. Bean's (Rowan Atkinson) contorted facial expressions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

So, the sooner it gets started, the faster I can reminisce with friends in the gully.

[ June 27, 2003, 21:35: Message edited by: Slynky ]

Slynky June 28th, 2003 08:52 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Slinky. Well I think the game will go fast once started. :-D
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I gotta say that gives me warm fuzzies! (not!) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Anyway, my empire is uploaded.

[ June 28, 2003, 20:10: Message edited by: Slynky ]

DavidG June 29th, 2003 01:09 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
I see I get to be paired against the 2nd highest-rated KOTH player, DavidG.

To "see" my reaction, picture tears streaming from one of Mr. Bean's (Rowan Atkinson) contorted facial expressions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

So, the sooner it gets started, the faster I can reminisce with friends in the gully.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Slinky. Well I think the game will go fast once started. But I'm on vactaion till tuesday. I may get a turn or 2 in before then but not a whole lot. :-D

Slynky June 29th, 2003 01:42 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
I see I get to be paired against the 2nd highest-rated KOTH player, DavidG.

To "see" my reaction, picture tears streaming from one of Mr. Bean's (Rowan Atkinson) contorted facial expressions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

So, the sooner it gets started, the faster I can reminisce with friends in the gully.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Slinky. Well I think the game will go fast once started. But I'm on vactaion till tuesday. I may get a turn or 2 in before then but not a whole lot. :-D</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, let's at least agree on KOTH setup so I can make an empire and then ask Geo to start it off so I can stare at some planets for a while. BTW, I prefer standard KOTH start but am open to some slight alterations if you have any.

Joachim June 29th, 2003 09:11 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Gandalph Vs Joachim.

Pop! Ah the beautiful sound of the cork coming from a bottle of Henschke Shiraz 2374. Praetor Joachim smiles across the stunningly set table, covered in flowers and glinting silverware - "My dear?"
"Of course - I love that drop." Responded tonights entertainment.
The deep purple Shiraz glided into the Crystal...
"PRAETOR!" Blurted Count Vrule as he burst into the private dining room.
"I said dont disturb me!".
"It is true the prophecy is correct - we are not alone."
"What?"
"We have encountered a ship in the Ephandra system. It fired upon our scientific ship which returned fire. The Alien ship is bigger than our explorers but seems to have very similar systems. Both ships sustained damage. Fortunately Captain Alowitios damaged it more than it hurt him."
Praetor Joachim grabbed the cyrstal glass and turned to dash to the Cabinet room, thinking ahead he spun back and grabbed the bottle - this could be a long meeting.

{OCC} We found each other 13 turns in. Gandalph is very Berseker. I am similar but to a lesser extent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Baron Grazic June 30th, 2003 04:54 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Geo, if you have a spare moment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif , can you setup the first turn for "K.O.T.H. Grazic vs Warlord Ragnarok".
Standand ALPU Game with one of Tesco's maps.
Thanks...

geoschmo June 30th, 2003 04:55 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ok, refresh my memory where Tesco posted the maps?

Geoschmo

Slynky June 30th, 2003 04:58 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Ok, refresh my memory where Tesco posted the maps?

Geoschmo

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gosh, I don't know, Geo. Without looking back in a search, didn't he say if you wanted them to contact him? (my memory is bad)

geoschmo June 30th, 2003 05:03 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I found them. He posted them in the PBW map library. Damn him for putting them where they belong. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tesco samoa June 30th, 2003 05:08 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Baron Grazic June 30th, 2003 05:09 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ta to Geo & Tesco.
Here goes another game, and I look forward to Rags updates. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ June 30, 2003, 04:10: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

Grandpa Kim June 30th, 2003 05:47 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Grandpakim vs. Gozguy

Well, it's finally becoming clear why I've had such and easy time with the Goz. His end of the map is littered with nebula systems and a smattering of asteroids and black holes. Lack of useful systems is spelling his deathknell. Right now, the only thing holding me back is the slow speed of my lead fleets. Six fleets are now closing in on his Last five systems. Not long now...

Slynky June 30th, 2003 06:00 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
I found them. He posted them in the PBW map library. Damn him for putting them where they belong. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't you HATE that? Happens in our house all the time (when I am looking for something). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ June 30, 2003, 21:37: Message edited by: Slynky ]

Ragnarok June 30th, 2003 06:18 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Ta to Geo & Tesco.
Here goes another game, and I look forward to Rags updates. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're just going to pick out every detail you can to exploit me I know it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Baron Grazic June 30th, 2003 06:29 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
As long as we both know it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Want to know why you are in first place?
I did a rooke mistake, told my Home World to emergency build a colony ship and forgot to 'Repeat build' it, only noticed after 4 turns. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Ragnarok June 30th, 2003 06:36 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
As long as we both know it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Want to know why you are in first place?
I did a rooke mistake, told my Home World to emergency build a colony ship and forgot to 'Repeat build' it, only noticed after 4 turns. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh man, that stinks. For you at least. For me that is kind of nice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Edit: I need sleep, it's been a long day. I'll get more turns in tomorrow Baron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ June 30, 2003, 05:38: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

Baron Grazic June 30th, 2003 06:47 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Cool, thanks for informing me.
14 turns in 1.5 hours - good start...

sparhawk June 30th, 2003 10:58 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Sparhawk's Empire (Sparhawk) -vs- Kif Hegemony (Mark the Merciful)

Please put mark one place up. And me at the bottom.
This week was somewhat busy for me, and I totally lost focus on the game. Also sorry to mark for the sometimes slow turn from my side.
It was a nice game, but he got faster mines on strategical point and that probally was my dead.
He was now attacking me from two sides, where I have no ships present.
And with the talismal he's got a winner.
So therefore I will not longer struggle to get more turn, because he would win in the end...I think..

Have Fun.

sparhawk


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