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General Woundwort June 18th, 2004 09:59 AM

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So, let me get this straight...

This guy, who claims to be a lawyer, does a "complete investigation" of your mod, threatens to turn you in to Paramount, and notifies you with a hijacked e-mail address!?!?!

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Words escape me, which is probably just as well as any words capable of describing this person are probably unfit for public distribution - like much of the authorized Star Trek franchise materials of late.

EDIT - Hey, dude, whoever you are, if you are monitoring this...

Get a life. Or if that is too much, at least have the guts to come out and really identify yourself.

[ June 18, 2004, 09:06: Message edited by: General Woundwort ]

Atrocities June 18th, 2004 10:24 AM

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I cannot explain it either. It just goes without saying that this is an unusual event perpetratied by someone who enjoys what he is doing far to much.

I did not know that it was so easy to "steal" someones email account and send out emails under that assumed identity. I guess it is more common now a days than it was in the past. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

The mail was sent from that email address, the account owner has a record of it, but has proven sufficently enough to me that it was not him who had sent it.

I guess the guy new or guessed the password used for the account. Or more likely he used a password getting program and this guys account was just one of many that he has uncovered passwords for.

I change all of my passwords sometime ago following the virus attacks from eariler this year. (Just in case)

The chances of someone guessing or obtaining my passwords is equal to any one else given the right program and security precautions. So if it can happen at yahoo, it can happen anywhere. Just and FYI.

narf poit chez BOOM June 18th, 2004 10:27 AM

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Ignore him. You can't try to change his mind since you can't talk to him, so don't worry.

BlackRose June 18th, 2004 11:28 AM

Re: STM "Final v1.7.5" Discussion
 
Well i've made any number of mods and think of myself as a bit familiar with the lawas governing them.

1: You would be in violation if you used models from a ST game that one would have to buy. Only people who had purchased the game would then be able to play it. Since that cannot be regulated you would be asked to remove the mod from public download.

(You clearly do not fall into this Category)

2: If you charged any kind of monetary fees for the use of this mod you would be in violation.

(again, no)

3: Credit where Credit is due (more obscure). if you in any way stated that you created Star Trek or the Star Trek theme you could be in violation.

(again no)

Mostly those are the only things that any body wuould get their hackles up about. In this case I dont think you have much of anything to worry about. The most you would have to worry about is a polite but firm letter from paramount asking you not to distribute your mod (i'd verify that it was true first).

Captain Kwok June 18th, 2004 12:46 PM

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Geez, I can't believe someone would actually waste their time writing crap like that to people. What the heck do you think is going to happen? You're going to trash the mod on their behalf? Don't worry about this guy at all, just another example of why I hate Star Trek fans in general.

Ragnarok-X June 18th, 2004 03:09 PM

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weird stuff. Wouldnt have happended a few years ago, but the world goes on and things change...

AMF June 18th, 2004 03:46 PM

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Bah, don't worry about it. It's just a shakedown, especially given the hijacked email address.

We've got some lawyers on this list (see "fire in the office" thread) have them give you an honest opinion. You might need to retain them, if so, I bet they'll do it for $1. That's the deal I have with a lawyer friend of mine. I gave him a buck ten years ago and now he gives me legal advice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

tesco samoa June 18th, 2004 04:06 PM

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tell him the files are in canada... and to blow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

geoschmo June 18th, 2004 04:24 PM

Re: STM "Final v1.7.5" Discussion
 
Paramount isn't going to do anything to you without at least a warning letter from them. I would ignore this clown. If Paramount sends you a letter, that's a different matter. You may still have a case based on the arguments others have made, but would it be worth fighting? That's something you'll have to decide if it happens.

I would suggest taking down the text of the email he sent you from your website though. All he is after is attention, why give him what he wants?

Geoschmo

mottlee June 18th, 2004 04:38 PM

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We can ALL join in and tell the JOKER to take a LONG walk off a SHORT pier!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif


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