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i can't believe pbw is STILL down http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

this is starting to get scary...
i really dont mind tooo tooo much since im on vacation, but i did bring my laptop http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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It's tough to imagine that it took less time to get the power back on after such a giant cascade failure, then it's taking to get this DSL back!

As for my neck of the woods - I can't complain at all about my Comcast Broadband. Even the tech that was sent to install it was well trained. He even stayed to resolve a problem I was having with it.

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Okay, getting back on topic here.

I would like to send a message out to all those who have been holding up games all this time in hopes that PBW will be up soon. Guess what? It's not gonna happen that quickly. If they've been down this long they are likely to be down alot longer. The game admins can run the turns for everyone. What's the big deal? Are your fingers so lethargic that you cannot go through the extra effort of sending an email? This is a friendly plea to STOP HOLDING UP THE GAMES!

Geez, we all did fine without PBW before they existed and I can't believe that we can't play a game without them now that they have a long standing problem.

BTW, has it occured to anyone that they may be re-developing the entire system? They have had these issues a few times before.

P.S.
I am not looking for flame here but I have been in a game that has numerous people drop out and join and it's been held up much more than it's share. I am just tired of having to wait for months to continue a game that should have been finished by now.

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Actually... a lot of people did not play PBEM, and only got into MP after PBW came around...

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Well then to them I am saying that it IS possible to play without PBW. My point stands. But thanks for the info. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now why would the PBW team try to redevelop a system that's been working like magic for as long as anyone can remember?

"If it's not broken, then you're not trying"
Red Green

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree with you. I played PBEM before PBW. And when I ran a game at PBW (and it was down), I ran the turn manually at home and mailed them.

I suggested to the owners of the games I am in that they could be run manually but no one seems to have wanted to.

And I don't play against the AI. That ended long ago when I discovered PBW games and PBEM games.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's hard for me to argue this point effectively. I have to say that Tuesday will tell the tale. According to the DSL people they have checked everything everywhere. If the meeting between the DSL tech and phone company tech on Tuesday does not bear fruit I have no idea what the next step in the process will be.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If there is anyone out there that wishes to play there game PBEM and the owner is not willing to do so, let me know. I will offer to take the game over and run the turns myself. Either myself or someone else. If we have a group of players wanting to go and the only thinkg holding them up is a game owner, we can find a new game owner.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually this is the first extended DSL outage we have had. We've never been down longer then a day before for connection problems. The previous extended outages in PBW were due to hardware failures on our end.

I am not really sure what you are trying to say here. We area always looking at our options for teh future of PBW but we are not currently actively redeveloping it. It seems like you are suggesting that the DSL is not really down but we are pretending it is so we can do a redesign of the PBW server? If we ever redevelop PBW it will be done while PBW is up and running and we will switch to the new system once it's been tested and stuff. There is no reason to take the system down for weeks to do that, and certainly no reason for us to be less then honest about what we are doing.

It's unlikely that this thought would occur to anyone, as they would expect based on past experience we would be up front with them about what is going on.

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I certainly hope you wouldn't hijack someone's game without their permission...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Has it occured to you that maybe a lot of people that are hosting games on PBW do it only because hosting it on PBW takes very little time, whereas doing it via PBEM takes a lot more time? Not everyone has time or desire to go through the hassle of processing turns manually every time.

[ August 17, 2003, 21:08: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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There was only one extended down time of PBW (prior to this mess), and that was from hardware failure. The other downtimes were short ones, hardly anything to be complaining about for a free service.