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Cainehill August 22nd, 2006 11:14 AM

Re: Proposition 50
 

I would like to suggest that Prop 50 is thrown out, as a proposition that was never announced here - bad precedent to set, even if a decent proposition.

Wish August 22nd, 2006 01:26 PM

Re: Proposition 50
 
Quote:

puffyn said:
Following the rejection of Prop 49 and the logic behind it, Mictlan will continue the war against Man unless ordered to stop by some future proposition.

However, we have come up with a compromise proposal that salvages much of the idea of Prop 49 as it relates to wyrms going rogue in the future, and also spells out the legal position of Man and Mictlan, so we encourage you to vote on the new and exciting <a href="http://yarnspinners.improbable.org/Wyrms/index.php?title=Proposition50">Proposition 50.</a>

cainehill, you mean like in the above quote, which you managed to past after at some point?

the council cannot be held responsible for your own irresponsibility.

djo August 25th, 2006 08:16 PM

email change
 
Hello everyone,

Effectively immediately, I'll be changing email addresses. My username is the same, but I'll be at gmail.com instead of earthlink.net. The old one will work for a while, but not forever.

If you need to contact me and don't have my address, just PM me through this forum.

Thanks!

shovah August 28th, 2006 03:01 PM

Re: email change
 
Could anyone take over in this game for me/find some-one to do so, due to windows bloody xp i currently cant get dominions working.

RonD August 28th, 2006 03:03 PM

Re: email change
 
Can you elaborate on the problem? Maybe someone can help. Dom2 seems like a pretty benign program that shouldn't cause trouble.

shovah August 28th, 2006 03:25 PM

Re: email change
 
Read the technical/hardware issues sticky.

Ygorl September 2nd, 2006 07:08 PM

Re: email change
 
Hopefully we'll have a new Ermor player by next Saturday... Otherwise, I think it would be better to turn them AI than to let them sit stagnant? (Burden of Time, anyone? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)

Also, Ygorl is trumpeting his successes in battle against Mictlan on the Yarnspinners page. Might be worthwhile reading for anyone out there hoping to scoop up the odd unique summon (though, of course, there will be no mention of Mannish casualties... I'll leave that to Apep http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif)

Wish September 2nd, 2006 10:34 PM

Re: email change
 
whats the rule when a large sneaking army takes out patrolling forces, thus putting them in siege of the castle of the province?

I know the province is clearly contested (by the charter,) but am I right in thinking attacking within the castle would cause roguehood, since it is an active move to take the province without council ruling?

Ygorl September 3rd, 2006 02:54 AM

Re: email change
 
I think we talked about this a while back, and the consensus was that if sneakers were discovered, beat their discoverers, and as a result took over a province or contested a castle, there was nothing illegal about that - so, since a contested province may be contested by either party, it's legal to then siege and take the castle.
I might be wrong, though.

Wish September 3rd, 2006 03:00 AM

Re: email change
 
its certainly a loophole to the "no stealth attacks without council approval" portion of the charter. how would his attacking my castle work towards his attackability under prop 39?

Ygorl September 3rd, 2006 04:19 AM

Re: email change
 
Taking someone's castle would pretty clearly make the taker subject to Prop. 39 revenge, is my interpretation. For what that's worth... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

puffyn September 4th, 2006 05:01 PM

Man, destroyer of Worlds
 
Mictlan will not be posting about Man's losses -- simply because he does not have any yet. His horde of well-equipped SCs and air mages will soon rule the world unless other Wyrms stand up against him.

(As noted elsewhere, I strongly feel that irrevocably turning Ermor AI would spoil an interesting game. I would prefer to see him stale a turn or two until a replacement can be found.)

Ygorl September 4th, 2006 11:24 PM

Man, inhabiter of Worlds
 
I agree about Ermor... But if we can't find a replacement at all, it seems like it would be better to turn them AI than to just let them sit until they're gone? I guess we can worry about that if it comes to it... KissBlade's got the turn now, so hopefully it will grab his interest.

Incidentally, not very nice of whoever it was that dispelled my Well of Misery. But fine, if you want your sorrows back, you can have them!
This turn, at least.

Also, things aren't quite as determined as Puffyn'd have you believe (though I hope they're more determined than I'd have you believe... I don't think so though! Especially if Ermor resumes pounding on me... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif) He's throwing some nasty stuff at me, and I think I probably got very lucky in killing his two black-ops commanders this past turn - to those who complain that the spellcasting AI stinks, I say "not always!"

KissBlade September 5th, 2006 02:37 AM

Re: Man, inhabiter of Worlds
 
I would need the conceptual balance mod as well. =)

Ygorl September 5th, 2006 01:46 PM

Re: Man, inhabiter of Worlds
 
You can get it from this thread:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

RonD September 5th, 2006 03:04 PM

Re: email change
 
Quote:

Wish_For_Blood_Slaves said:
whats the rule when a large sneaking army takes out patrolling forces, thus putting them in siege of the castle of the province?

I know the province is clearly contested (by the charter,) but am I right in thinking attacking within the castle would cause roguehood, since it is an active move to take the province without council ruling?

Passage of http://yarnspinners.improbable.org/W...=Proposition51

would certainly clear up any confusion.

Wish September 5th, 2006 06:28 PM

Re: email change
 
well about a war between us, but not about the loophole.

KissBlade September 5th, 2006 09:53 PM

Re: email change
 
Alright, is there anyone able to tell me which royalties/blood summons are available or unavailable by chance? There seems just an incredible amount of stuff needed to catch up on =\.

Wish September 5th, 2006 10:49 PM

Re: email change
 
chances are nothing is available.

KissBlade September 6th, 2006 02:00 AM

Re: email change
 
I would still like you guys to continue searching for a replacement. There really just seems to be entirely too much to handle here for my very very packed schedule =). However, I will attempt to sub while able and hopefully not stale any turns.

Ygorl September 6th, 2006 02:22 AM

Re: email change
 
You can look on the game wiki at
http://yarnspinners.improbable.org/W...itle=Main_Page
in the Proclamations section, I've been announcing uniques as I kill them (fighting the just fight! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
There's at least a heliophagus and a demon lord up. Possibly others, depending on how religiously Puffyn's been resummoning them (or if other people have taken them; I'm not sure).
I'm pretty sure all the elemental royalty are taken - except there might be a fire king available, if Puffyn didn't resummon him.

Thanks so much for subbing, and hopefully you'll get sucked in and want to stay to the bitter (or sweet?) end!

KissBlade September 6th, 2006 04:00 AM

Re: email change
 
eh ... I suppose it will be easier if I wasn't just suddenly thrown in with no actual update and information from the previous player.

Ygorl September 6th, 2006 03:04 PM

Re: email change
 
The previous player (Shovah) only played 1 or 2 turns. The player before that (Folket) has given up his Dom2 habit.

If you're feeling really motivated, you can read through the history of the game on the wiki - or you can start with a clean slate, as a new personality of this already mercurial Wyrm, and renegotiate all your relationships...

Or you can just keep the nation from totally stagnating while we find a longer-term replacement.

As you like it!

KissBlade September 6th, 2006 04:14 PM

Re: email change
 
While I certainly wouldn't mind a new personality it does seem that if Mictlan is engaged in war against the dominant player (you) it only makes sense to continue warfare currently, at least until you're about equal level. I certainly wouldn't mind a council position again since I rather like diplomacy in a game =).

Ygorl September 6th, 2006 07:58 PM

Re: email change
 
I bet you could get reinstated if you made up back payments on the Nexus tax... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Also, on more mundane administrative things... I'm going to be out of the US (France!) for a couple weeks, starting next Wednesday. We can either just skip two hostings, or we can host as normal this coming Saturday and I can host again on Wednesday right before I leave and then again on Wednesday or Thursday two weeks later, right after I get back.
Er, more coherently, we can host on 9/9 and then again on 9/30, or we can host on 9/9, 9/13, 9/28 and 9/31 (Sunday rather than Saturday to avoid the two-day turn).

What do people prefer? I'm happy either way...

Wish September 6th, 2006 08:35 PM

Re: email change
 
You send the turns, I'll play it when I get it.

KissBlade September 6th, 2006 09:43 PM

Re: email change
 
Quote:

Ygorl said:
I bet you could get reinstated if you made up back payments on the Nexus tax... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Also, on more mundane administrative things... I'm going to be out of the US (France!) for a couple weeks, starting next Wednesday. We can either just skip two hostings, or we can host as normal this coming Saturday and I can host again on Wednesday right before I leave and then again on Wednesday or Thursday two weeks later, right after I get back.
Er, more coherently, we can host on 9/9 and then again on 9/30, or we can host on 9/9, 9/13, 9/28 and 9/31 (Sunday rather than Saturday to avoid the two-day turn).

What do people prefer? I'm happy either way...

I would certainly like to skip two hostings just to get my bearings. =) And I would like to plead my case to the collective council on why a tax on the Arcane Nexus is not necessary.

RonD September 6th, 2006 10:21 PM

Re: email change
 
I wonder if the game will survive a 3-week gap in hosting. Participation in the council seems to have really fallen off (the current proposition has drawn only 2 votes in over 24 hours).

I think this game was a truly grand idea. Maybe other people are satisfied with how it turned out, but I had hoped for and expected a lot more war-related council activity. Instead, it turned into the world's biggest turtle-fest. Make no mistake, I am as much to blame as anyone else - I could have easily tried to declare war on someone much earlier. The endgame seems now to only hold the interest of the top 2 or 3 nations (minus Ermor, that is). Personally, I really would like to be out of this game by the time dom3 comes out.

Ygorl September 7th, 2006 04:04 AM

Re: email change
 
Well, I'm offering the option of a "mere" two-week gap.
Are other people still having fun though? If not, there's no reason to continue... We don't have an obligation to crown a supreme wyrm.

I don't feel like I haven't had enough war, incidentally... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

If it really is only a couple people still enjoying the game, we should probably end the story here. If people are enjoying it quietly, though, let's press on... I've got some demons and (with the potential return of Ermor) ghouls and wolves to kill...

KissBlade September 7th, 2006 04:32 AM

Re: email change
 
To be honest, I do think there is just way too much turmoil in my current swap in (since I hardly have a clue what your usual army/tactics are =) ) to say that it is a pretty safe bet that you have the game unless I'm able to employ some dastardly underhanded tactics such as assimilating idle empires =). The Nexus certainly helps but I'm not even certain of what 5.1 balance mods include though I noticed that wraith swords weren't nerfed and your treelords can fly XD.

Cainehill September 7th, 2006 12:55 PM

Re: email change
 

I'm kinda busy right now, but still enjoying it.

djo September 7th, 2006 07:51 PM

Re: email change
 
Whatever hosting schedule other folks want is fine for me, with the caveat that turns be no less than 48 hrs apart, and the next host time is always given in the turn email.

I'm still having fun. The quiet on the current proposition could be a number of things: strategic silence, an unwillingness to get involved, anything. Personally, Marignon is biding its time, because I fear my first war will be my last.

RibbonBlue September 8th, 2006 12:41 AM

Re: email change
 
I've been lurking this thread, and i'd like to point out:
09/28/05 ------ First Post
09/07/06 ------ Today
3 More weeks and it will have been a full year.

Wish September 8th, 2006 02:15 AM

Re: email change
 
wow

time sure flies

KissBlade September 10th, 2006 02:40 PM

Re: email change
 
There's no way I can make the Wednesday deadline for the turn -.-. I thought the next turn was due Saturday!

Ygorl September 10th, 2006 02:51 PM

Re: email change
 
Back in the middle of page 92 (!!!) I said that I'd be out of town for a couple weeks, and I could either host right before I left and right after I came back, meaning two weeks between hosts but the same number as we would have had, or I could skip the two hosts when I'll be gone. Consensus seemed to be to do the former. I'm happy to do the latter, though. In that case, the turn is not due Wednesday but instead is due Saturday, Sept. 30, at noon.
That's a long time... Sorry folks, but I need my vacation!

RonD September 10th, 2006 10:43 PM

New proposition
 
A new, improved Proposition is available for your greedy (er, voting) pleasure:

http://yarnspinners.improbable.org/W...=Proposition52

Come one, come all! Come get some gems!

Ygorl September 29th, 2006 01:47 PM

Re: New proposition
 
So, with hosting in less than 24 hours (or maybe a bit more, if real life interferes), I've only received three turns. Does this mean people are too distracted by the imminent arrival of Dom3 to want to continue this game? Or are the turns forthcoming?

Wish September 29th, 2006 02:43 PM

Re: New proposition
 
did you get my turn way back when?

KissBlade September 29th, 2006 03:11 PM

Re: New proposition
 
I will try to enter my turn in by the end of tonight. There's A LOT of organization I need to do. Not to mentiono, I have to scout all the forces that you have because I don't have much intelligence info >_<.

Ygorl September 29th, 2006 05:07 PM

Re: New proposition
 
Wish, I got yours.
Kiss, no need for scouting. As far as I'm concerned, we're not even *really* at war... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

KissBlade September 30th, 2006 04:49 AM

Re: New proposition
 
Seems to me then you should return that fort you just took and I'll agree to that one ~_^ ... Oh I got home EXTRAORDINARILY late on Friday night, if you can wait till the end of Saturday, I'll be able to turn in my turn hurriedly >_<. However if people are starting to drop out, I think it's safe to call man the winner at this point.

PashaDawg September 30th, 2006 10:38 AM

Re: New proposition
 
I think you have my turn, yes? (Ulm)

Pasha

puffyn September 30th, 2006 11:39 AM

Re: New proposition
 
I, too, promise to get my turn in by tonight...

Ygorl September 30th, 2006 12:20 PM

Re: New proposition
 
I've got Abysia, Jotun, Man, Pythium, and Ulm at this point. No problem with waiting. I've got a full day ahead of me anyway.

KissBlade September 30th, 2006 01:37 PM

Re: New proposition
 
I sent in a somewhat rushed turn =).

djo September 30th, 2006 01:39 PM

Re: New proposition
 
Good think you posted that list--I sent my turn on Sept. 16, but apparently it didn't arrive. Resent...

Ygorl October 1st, 2006 07:29 PM

Re: New proposition
 
Sorry all that I didn't get the turns out until so late today; my housemate's parents were visiting...

PashaDawg October 2nd, 2006 08:31 PM

Re: New proposition
 
So, is this game continuing after the Dom 3 wave?

djo October 2nd, 2006 08:58 PM

Re: New proposition
 
When in doubt, propose another proposition!

Is there anywyrm brave enough, or political enough, to try to claim victory through council proposition? Who truly controls the largest voting bloc? The wyrm from Man, besides being our gracious host, holds the most territory, and continues to hold it (with some slippage) against two strong contenders. Will he attempt to claim victory?

(Note: although a clause in "game settings" allows a wyrm to claim victory with 12 VPs, oddly enough, that clause does not appear in the charter! Even if it did, another proposition would presumably take precedence.)


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