Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Well, SparHawk, I think Mark is a good player. Very good. I think he will be hard to beat, with or without losing concentration... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ). You just can't make any mistakes playing against him! I feel good that I Lasted over a hundred turns with him!

But games with people like him help you learn and get better. And have fun along the way. And, besides winning ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ), that's what it's all about.

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Primitive climbs the final steps to the top of the hill. He finds a strange little man called Mark the Merciful already waiting. A saint ?
It does not matter if its a Lord, a Saint or the Viking King himself, the rusty (yet pointy) spear of Primitive do not discriminate.

Primitive VS Lord Chane
Lord Chane surrenders at turn 55. I clearly had the best starting position, as well as the home cort advantage in the first major battle. He jumped into my system just when I was gathering my forces for the jump. If he had waited 2 turns I would have gone first and everything could have been very different. I wish him better luck on his way up the hill again.

Mark:
Think it's us now. What about a Tesco Map ?

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

I'm back again, KOTH page updated and new games created http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Thanks for Geoschmo uploading the first turn to some games.

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Ragnarok vs. Baron Grazic

2401.6 - Still no meeting of empires yet (as too be expected using Tescos maps)
First place went back and forth for awhile but now Baron has held first for a few turns in a row. Expansion and exploration are still going on and planets are developing nicely. In my home system of !*@&#^$% is...ya right, you think I'm going to give out information about it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
More reports will come as turns progress.

Baron, you should do reports from your viewpoint as well. You usually are the "reporter" for your games so I know you can do it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Hey is there something wrong? I cant download my turn file against Gecko http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Gecko i hope your reading this...i tried to extract it says no archives... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ July 01, 2003, 01:52: Message edited by: Rojero ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Try downloading the files again. Sometimes you can get corrupted files. In which case you just download them again and all should be fine. If you continuously have problems then post again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Ragnarok's "Baron Chasers! Federation" vs. Baron Grazic's "EEEvil EEEmpire"

2402.2 - I Agree with Rags, in stating that no meeting of empires has yet occurred, to the benefit of the EEEvil EEEmpire.

The insane EEEmperer Grazic is living up to being the most insane member of the EEEvil EEEmpire. First he starts off having the Home World emergency build nothing, then while carefully watching the Mineral Balance, he forgets to look at the Rads and has to scrap 20 Space Stations (well perhaps not that many but a bit of misinformation won't hurt http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) then he double uploads the same turn... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

The EEEvil EEEmpire has heard a whisper on the solar winds, and we will continue looking for the source so that our ships "everLasting gobstopper", "kenny's dEEEad again!" and not forgetting our most insane ship of the fleet, "n'sync's rEEEvenge" can stop the noise...

Edit:- 2403.5 - Contact made with the Baron Chasers! Federation, in almost the centre of the Galaxy - Nice name Rags, but it won't help. {Fingers & Toes crossed} http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ July 01, 2003, 04:47: Message edited by: Baron Grazic ]

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All of my turns downloaded/uploaded OK as far as I know... I have experienced no diffculties. If you still can not extract, we can send a note to Asmala to rerun the turn due to corrupted file(s). He should be back Tuesday sometime. Let me know.

BTW: I check my email regulary, so that is another reliable method for contacting me.

Gecko

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Ragnarok's "Baron Chasers! Federation" vs. Baron Grazic's "EEEvil EEEmpire"

2404.1 - We finally met a few turns ago towards the center of the map. He took out my colony ship with a classy named ship "Pain". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif I then sent my fleet down to one of my systems to protect against any possible threats in that area. A couple turns go by and nothing happens. A turn or two ago he came into another system occupied by me (different section of the map then where we first met) with 2 ships; aptly named "Big Ship" and "Pain". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Then in the area we first met he tried to enter my system only to be stopped my my fleet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif He lost while I only took damage to one of my ships. (9%/1 component) And that is how it currently stands. I have held first place for quite a few turns now.

Things should prove to be interesting. I am worried for a couple reasons but I cannot let those be known at this time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

ok thanks i got it downloaded...it could be that gecko was trying to whack me since i am such a new at PBW hehe

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Would the reason be, that besides the colony in the Ishantrissti System, the EEEvil flEEEts now hold more than 50% of the galaxy? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
At least we hold it for now, who knows if you fleet has the power to take back the southern system?

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am not currently at liberty to say what the reason is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But you don't hold more then 50% of the galaxy, you just have cut me off from the rest. Once you have colonies in EACH system over there then you will hold it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"If God is for us, who can be against us?"

This was a really interesting map because there were no chokepoints, so we both had to guard or attack through at least four warp points at any one time.

We spent turns 20-35 (ish) skirmishing between my Colony ships and ramships and Sparhawks armed scouts, and I think I came ahead out of that, forcing myself into systems Sparhawk would like to have claimed. Then I managed to get minefields laid in strategic locations, solidifying my advantage.

I also seemed to have developed a big economic lead, because I'd expected that Sparhawk would be able to put something nasty together with the time and research points (825,000 of them) that I spent getting to Talisman tech. But in fact, when I got my first attack fleets together (Light Cruisers with DUC V, PDC IV, ECM II, Talismans and Armor) and started advancing (around turn 50), I was only running into Destroyers with DUC IIIs.

It's now turn 55, and as well as the two fleets Sparhawk's seen, there'll be another arriving next turn, and another the turn after that. So if he doesn't have a huge fleet hidden behind his lines (which is what I was assuming), then the game is indeed over.

Thanks Sparhawk, it was fun. I hope it was for you too!

Mark

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why, thank you sir!

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Aren't rusty spears a violation of the Geneva Conventions?

I haven't seen Tesco's maps or any discussion about them (I think they happened before I started playing KOTH). Can I take a look at one or two examples before I agree, or are we supposed to play them sight unseen?

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Hi Mark there are 25 maps...

There is 4 starting places set at 'any'

They are small maps and designed to place the players at meeting each other either by turn 10 or 20 turns later... depending on the location... So that surprise is still there.

The maps are available for download at the pbw site their called koth maps...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tesco, I can't remember, were those maps generated with SE (standard) or with the TDM Mod?

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KOTH Geo vs Cheeze - Turn 2408.7

The Flora had suffered massive setbacks, and it seemed the Reaper (hehe) was coming for certain. The Flora prepared several Last stand defenses, but it was clear that the Memnorak were far too superior in combat, and that was without their great advantage in numbers. An unexpected positive result in a crucial skirmish delayed the Memnorak advance, when their warfleet engaged three Flora fighter wings. A support convoy had met the warships but the fighters were between them, and one group of brave fighters swept into the support craft and did far more damage than expected. Three important colonies fell to the Memnorak, but went down in some great battles.

The Flora have devised new plans. When roots and tendrils cannot go through rock, they find ways to under or around it, and then wear the hard surface away. It apppears that some unexpected attacks have born fruit, and the Flora have taken root in some Imperium colonies.

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What would that have to do with anything? Or are you speaking of FQM Mod?
TDM will generate the same maps that standard SE does as it only changes the AI. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ July 01, 2003, 16:33: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Rusty (yet pointy) spears are listed as WMDs: Weapons of Messy Disembowelment.

I browsed through some of the Tesco maps a while back, and most (but not all) are larger and looks better (and fairer) than the average random map.
It's all up to you, I am happy with any setup http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Send me a message/mail with your decision.

Primitive

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What would that have to do with anything? Or are you speaking of FQM Mod?
TDM will generate the same maps that standard SE does as it only changes the AI. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, FQM (*slaps self*).

The difference in them is planet/atmosphere generation. And the number of moons (etc.) FQM generates. I just wondered if Tesco used FQM to generate the maps and that people who might not be familiar with them might want to take a hard look before deciding on their empire setup.

Of course, if the Tesco Maps were generated with standard SE Gold...I'll have to do my best impersonation of Gilda Radner saying, "Never mind!". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

OK Asmala, could you set me and Primitive up with a new game based on one of Tesco's maps. Otherwise, standard settings.

That OK with you, Primitive?

Mark

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Slynky -vs- Kazarp 2401.1

I just sent a colony ship to colonize a planet in a nearby system. Noticed when I clicked on it that there was writing. So, I read it (duh!)

Seems like the game was generated with ruins in it. So, I looked around at all the planets (I can colonize) in systems where I am colonizing and noticed another one.

Now, you and I both know lots of times you get those "massive" things that aren't worth anything in this game. On the other hand, sometimes you get other colonizing techs and other stuff that could make a difference in the game, like shields and weapons.

So, I would suggest we keep the same empires/PBW game and get Asmala to generate another game for us. I'd hate to add any more luck to the game than there already is.

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

I could have sworn I had that option turned off when I made the first turn. THis is one I did isnt' it?

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Hi. The maps are stock... like koth...

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, Geo, just shows ya what happens when you try to do a good deed... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif . They have a saying about that, I beleive.

I used to do it all the time and couldn't figure out why. Then I realized I was generating a map (and deciding it looked really interesting) and THEN as I worked my way down, turned off Ruins. (after the map had been generated).

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

hmmmmm.... Koth Hakiu

Battles of One
Sleeps with the Fishes
Victory Koth.

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Ragnarok's "Baron Chasers! Federation" vs. Baron Grazic's "EEEvil EEEmpire"

2405.1 - Nothing exciting has really happened the Last few turns. I am still in first place and have been for along time now. But as I've said many times before that never means anything. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif Our empires continue to grow in many different ways. In one system that Baron and I share he has a fleet of 9 ships building at the warp point that I imagine is mined to the teeth and he is colonizing some planets in that system as well. Other then that it has been slow goings and I'm sure battles will begin to flare in the next few turns. Who will take the risk to start off we have yet to see. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Asmala, KOTH Phoenix-d vs sparhawk will be a default map with one starting planet.

thanks

sparhawk

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

hmm.. more KOTH haiku

In the King's throne room
Drunken Vikings are restless
Eager to fight more

[ July 02, 2003, 13:31: Message edited by: Rollo ]

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Eager to fight more
to Valhalla vikings go
A new king will come

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An old ghost lingers
Elvis Sightings! Is he dead?
A vanquished king plots.

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Who is this Georgig? Are we playing standard KOTH settings? I see you have uploaded an empire. I have tried to contact you a couple of times via email but to no avail. I am looking forward to getting this ball rolling. Please let me know either here or via email. Thanks.

Mathias Ice

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Oh yeah, and I haven't see an update on the BBegemott vs Krsqk match, how goes that fight? I was kind of hoping for a rematch vs one of the people who defeated me earlier (Krsqk and Sparhawk.) Hoping the rematch would occur up the hill and not down the hill. I was hoping more for the Sparhawk rematch as that was a 15 round or so defeat, but I see he is down the hill.

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DavidG: Waiting on your input about what to do with our game. Asmala will be on in a few hours and can generate a new map if you want to go with my suggestion. Otherwise, what are your thoughts?

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BBegemott - Krsqk (2400.1)

Though the game started 2 weeks ago, there isn't much to say about it without revealing our secrets. We haven't met yet.

We are going to beat 'the slowest start record' I think http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif damned RL problems. Firstly I had some PC problems. After solving them we made one turn and Krsqk hard drive crashed or smth like that. Now I'm waiting for him. In addition to all of this my vacation starts ~07.14.
It is going to be a slow game, but it's OK with me.

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Anyway you want is OK with me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Anyway you want is OK with me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then, Asmala, could you go ahead and roll another standard map for us with the standard KOTH setup and start the game over? (thanks!)

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Ok, so the reason the game got messed up is I used Tesco's Maps? Tesco, since Koth is no ruins by default your maps should not have ruins. If you want to make some new ones up I can replace the file on PBW with the new maps.

Geoschmo

[ July 02, 2003, 20:39: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Game restarted.

Geo, I think Slynky is right. There are ruins also in my game against Rex but it doesn't matter.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">my empire was uploaded long ago and i am waiting for you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

copy of my e-mail to you:

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ok :-)

asmala, please, make it very standart http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

georgig

Original message: Saturday, June 28, 2003, 4:11:44 AM

MI> I'd prefer standard setup for my first run up the hill. Maybe I'll get creative on my
MI> next shot up, but for know I'm thinking "Go with what you know." From the looks of it we
MI> can't get started
MI> until Tuesday.

MI>

MI> Mathias Ice

MI> Add photos to your Messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.

another e-mail sent to you today http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

thanks to fyron for reading every Last word here :-P

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you are talking about my game, I didn't ask for Tesco maps. And I don't think DavidG/Kazarp did either. I just assumed you generated it from scratch.

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Come on guys, work with me. I am trying to find a reason why this isn't my fault. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Do Tesco's maps definitely have ruins on them? If so, I want to reconsider my earlier statement about our game start.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How strange, I still haven't gotten the email. Anyway, uploading my Empire now. I guess if you need to message me for some reason post a PM here.

FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!!

Mathias Ice

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

folks this is for fun and who cares anyway about the map - when the players play on the same map i assume :-P

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, as I said, there were ruins (standard KOTH startup specifies "no ruins") on planets. 2 planets that I could colonize in the next 4 turns. Having ruins adds more luck to the game than is needed.

In the interest of fairness, I asked for a restart. I did this even though I had 6 colonizable planets in my starting home system, 2 HUGE breathables and a SMALL breathable. Not something I see every game.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, now that I think back on it a bit, I believe you are right, Geo. I think I was the one who made the mistake...I apologize profusely ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

The Tesco's map that we are using does have Ruins. We have colonised 4 Ruin planets and discovered "Massive Engine" and "Massive Shield" Destroying Weapons and nothing on the other 2.
Might need to remake the maps, Tesco.

Ragnarok's "Baron Chasers! Federation" vs. Baron Grazic's "EEEvil EEEmpire"

2406.1 - Still no action in our game yet. The EEEvil EEEmpire is still in second place, and has been for some time.

In the one system we share, the EEEvil EEEmpire has 3 colonies, and a 17 ship strong fleet, with more ships incoming, while the Baron Chasers have only 1 Colony.

The Baron Chasers have attempted to explore furhter into EEEvil territory and have discovered a few minefields, and in the only warp point that wasn't mined, ran into our Ship Capture fleet. Thanks for the Tech Rags. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Secret details (No peeking Rags) = Although Warlord Ragnarok "imagines that the warp point is mined to the teeth" we have been very slow in discovering mines, only just launching a few mines before his scouts hit them and this is is the resaon we haven't attacked. This will be rectified very soon... Didn't I tell t=you not to look Rags. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For a game that seemed at an end around turn 40, it's still going!!! This is getting interesting!