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Loren March 20th, 2010 03:38 PM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by cthulhu (Post 736300)
Personally I think that queens of elemental air ought to be able to at least go over water even if they aren't allowed to go under water. Something similar to the sailing special ability, but effecting only the commander? Or heck, maybe just sailing.

But I agree that it's not really a bug. Unit attributes that do not show up in the icons or the text descriptions are not automatically bugs, though they are undesirable.

Yeah, everything that couldn't cross the water was stuff that by appearance should be able to go over the water.

Wrana March 20th, 2010 03:59 PM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Loren (Post 736451)
Quote:

Originally Posted by cthulhu (Post 736300)
Personally I think that queens of elemental air ought to be able to at least go over water even if they aren't allowed to go under water. Something similar to the sailing special ability, but effecting only the commander? Or heck, maybe just sailing.

But I agree that it's not really a bug. Unit attributes that do not show up in the icons or the text descriptions are not automatically bugs, though they are undesirable.

Yeah, everything that couldn't cross the water was stuff that by appearance should be able to go over the water.

I think the (in)ability was developed with vampires in mind...

Burnsaber March 20th, 2010 06:54 PM

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I think the best option would just not to think about UW access things too hard. Bane Lords, for example are unable to go into water without water breathing items althought they clearly don't breathe in the first place. Just go with it.

Baneslave March 21st, 2010 10:42 AM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Burnsaber (Post 736475)
I think the best option would just not to think about UW access things too hard. Bane Lords, for example are unable to go into water without water breathing items althought they clearly don't breathe in the first place. Just go with it.

Same is true with many LA Ermor's (cold aura) commanders. Maybe they cannot go underwater because it freezes around them? :p

Burnsaber March 21st, 2010 11:20 AM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Baneslave (Post 736513)
Same is true with many LA Ermor's (cold aura) commanders. Maybe they cannot go underwater because it freezes around them? :p

Nice try, but Spectres have poor amphibian although they have chill aura, so that logic does not apply :P.

rdonj March 21st, 2010 11:25 AM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
But they're ethereal, so they can pass through the ice!

Burnsaber March 21st, 2010 11:34 AM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by rdonj (Post 736521)
But they're ethereal, so they can pass through the ice!

Okay, so ethreal undead should be able to go underwater? See Jomons/Shinyamas ghost generals for an example where that logic fails.

Squirrelloid March 21st, 2010 01:12 PM

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heck, all ethereal creatures should be amphibious. Like they care if they're moving through water or air (or solid rock...)? Its all the same to them, right? Undead is irrelevant in that context.

Loren March 21st, 2010 01:53 PM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Burnsaber (Post 736475)
I think the best option would just not to think about UW access things too hard. Bane Lords, for example are unable to go into water without water breathing items althought they clearly don't breathe in the first place. Just go with it.

The thing is I had Thestis' Blessing up. Anything not specifically prohibited from the water should have been able to cross.

Vampires have a specific thematic reason they can't enter water but I don't see that that applies to the elemental royalty.

Baneslave March 22nd, 2010 09:46 AM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
Well, ethereality without flight doesn't make any sense, as wouldn't those units just fall through the earth? :p


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