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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, but what manner of paradise is it? From the scriptures, we know that its climate is certainly more unpleasant than Hell. Heaven, after all, receives 50 times as much light from the Sun as we get here on Earth, which gives it a temperature of 525C. Hell, on the otherhand, can be no hotter than 445C, the temperature at which the lakes of brimstone would become a gas.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Heaven is undoubtedly lacking in said debauchery, which seems to make it sound like a very, very, boring place. I'm sure you're not going there for the scintillating company, either.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Live life as a total bore, die and be banished to oblivion. Great way to live. Pass.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds like a plan. Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow, we die.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think the winning deal seems to be to sell your soul to Satan. After all, this seems to be the sort of thing Satan theoretically happens to go for, and if you can't manage to even sell your soul to Satan, this begins to shed doubt on this entire theory. After all, you're going to Hell anyway.

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Compelling stuff there Norfy,

Lets add the additional premise that paradise/heaven is actualy one continual unending peaking orgasm.

Would that equate to pleasure or pain ?

Spiro.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ROTFLMAO.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There's no difference. It's actually torment either way.

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Actually thinking about it

If most sensations, pleasure, pain, touch, taste etc are generated by physical sensory receptors and transfered to the mind/soul via specific neural pathways and nerve transmitors (or animal spirits depending on archaic, you wanna get).

Then should you die but continue on as a disembodied soul, you would no longer have those receptors and thus be unable to feel anything, except abstract conceptualisations. At that point, you probably wouldnt care about god or the devil.

Unless of course, you believe in the ressurection. which is one good reason not to be christian.

Spiro

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What, on the floor? Then the only thing you're going to get a picture of is my feet! Besides, what exactly would you have me *DO* with these pictures? I'm not wasting the film just so I can mail you pictures of my feet. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You are realy dumb norf. No insult, just frank observation. How about puting your camera 20 feet away? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Or 30 feet? That would be enough distance for the standard camera to show you, and several of your very own T34 tanks on top of each other. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ July 29, 2004, 09:48: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's worse than you think. Mood is caused & regulated by chemicals within the brain. No brain (you're a disembodied consciousness), no moods and emotions. It gets worse yet: no brain, no neurons. No neurons, no thoughts at all. Sounds like oblivion to me.

It's the fear of oblivion that causes people, even in the absence of religious teaching, to invent an afterlife, god(s), and all the associated trappings of the mystical and mythical. Humans have always feared the unknown, and what can be more unknown than oblivion? Humans also have an infinite capacity for self-deception. If you don't believe that, you've never seen a drug addict (i.e.: people in denial and unable to cope with reality), nor are you capable of enjoying a Hollywood movie (which require you to suspend disbelief, suspension of disbelief being self-deception).

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Last time I checked most signals from "physical sensory receptors" of our bodies were going directly into our brains through "neural pathways
. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif But according to your logic, after death the human will lack not only receptors, but pathways and even brain itself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif At this point the question of your afterlife existense become rather moot, if you determined to operate on the same principles as during your lifetime, don't you agree? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, it's like the saying goes: Too much of a good thing, is an awesome thing. But too much of an awesome thing, is really bad, and dumb.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you'd ever actually seen a T34 (or any other tank), you know that 20-30 feet isn't hardly enough distance, unless you use a ultra-wide-angle lens, which isn't common on the el-cheapo point-n-click disposable cameras someone was mentioning. Oh, and you cannot fit one inside a basement, either. Too large, especially in height.