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jutetrea May 29th, 2007 01:35 PM

Re: Horror of horrors
 

Woot! Significant upkeep drop!

vfb May 29th, 2007 05:50 PM

Re: Horror of horrors
 
"Your global enchantment has been dispelled." Ha ha ha! At least Foodstamp left us some fireworks to look at. Or did the AI do that?

Sorry to see you go Foodstamp, have fun in your other games!

Foodstamp May 29th, 2007 05:57 PM

Re: Horror of horrors
 
I don't think it was the whole server. Just all the nations that hit me with offensive spells then canceled their NAPs with me. That doesn't include Ctis and Niefelheim.

Yomi felt that I was Mindhunting his commanders during our NAP, so I understand his position, even though his current enemy had great access to astral mages.

Kailasa is just trying to be one of the last to lose, because this is his first MP game.

Mictlan is playing way too conservative and should have been at war with you already. Every turn that he remains at peace with your nation shifts the balance in your favor due to his bless becoming less important.

I always learn from these games and this time just like in "The Middle Way", I made too many friends. I expected those friends would be handy against the stronger opponents later on, I did not expect them to use our NAPs to attack me with impunity.

In one of my first large games I was in an alliance similar to yours and we ended up winning the game and declaring a joint victory. Looking back on that game I realized how boring it was to crush the opposition with the alliance, but I feel like I did it because I was new to the game and was afraid of what the veterans might unleash. So I can't fault you guys for doing the same thing I have done in the past.

I am getting better with R'lyeh. I just need to focus more on a concerted plan towards the end of the game.

Thanks for the great game and I look forward to playing with you guys again in the future. (Maybe on a smaller map because of time limits)

Foodstamp May 29th, 2007 06:33 PM

Re: Horror of horrors
 
VFB, that was me. I dispelled Thetis, then waited for the game to host to make sure it went through. Then went to AI. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

jutetrea May 29th, 2007 11:52 PM

Re: Horror of horrors
 

Well I had really really hoped you were going to wait one more turn as I knew it was coming. I had enough items forged to save most, if not all of my army and 3/4 of my mages. I just needed the lab from that castle to equip them. So great timing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

Foodstamp May 29th, 2007 11:55 PM

Re: Horror of horrors
 
I am really surprised you guys casted it with so few gems.

vfb May 30th, 2007 12:34 AM

Re: Horror of horrors
 
Chalk it up as yet another noob mistake http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

I cast it at a 50% off site. I wonder if the excess gems were counted at half off or something weird like that? If so, serves me right for buying a Thetis on sale!

Foodstamp May 30th, 2007 01:23 AM

Re: Horror of horrors
 
You really can't afford to buy an offbrand Thetis. Sure it saves you money up front, but they have a tendency to wear out faster than a namebrand Thetis, often at the worst possible moment. Now the seas wreak of sailors who did not think to bring ships.

lch May 30th, 2007 07:05 AM

Re: Horror of horrors
 
Quote:

Foodstamp said:
VFB, that was me. I dispelled Thetis, then waited for the game to host to make sure it went through. Then went to AI. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

From my experience, you can issue orders and go AI at the same time. The game will execute the orders and then set you to AI.

Quote:

vfb said:
I cast it at a 50% off site. I wonder if the excess gems were counted at half off or something weird like that? If so, serves me right for buying a Thetis on sale!

AFAIK the magic bonus site reduces base gem cost, but additional gems are only counted after you exceed the base gem cost, which should be a bug. So, you wasted the gems.

vfb May 30th, 2007 09:24 AM

Re: Horror of horrors
 
Quote:

lch said:

Quote:

vfb said:
I cast it at a 50% off site. I wonder if the excess gems were counted at half off or something weird like that? If so, serves me right for buying a Thetis on sale!

AFAIK the magic bonus site reduces base gem cost, but additional gems are only counted after you exceed the base gem cost, which should be a bug. So, you wasted the gems.

Well, not really wasted. If the base cost is 50, and I had put in 75 gems at a normal 100% cost site, I'm at +25.

If the base cost is 50 and I put in 75 gems at a 50% cost site (even though a minimum cast is 25), I'm still at +25.

The only way I'd save money would be to cast at the minimum and then recast when it's dispelled. Which isn't a good plan with Thetis http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif. But since I know I'm prone to mistakes, all my main guys had Goblets as a precaution, and I lost mostly chaff. Yay, less chaff! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


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