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True, I'm annoyed. But I am not exactly angry either. I have a lot of sympathy for Zeldor and think he has done an admirable job. I just am not wasting any more time on this. These forums suck. That's not my fault. It's also not my fault that I was told the game name had changed and then sent in a pretender to the new game. I wasn't ignoring PreponderanceNew emails ... just the old bugged game Preponderance. If the email heading would have said anything other than Preponderance or in some other way stood out from the many other Preponderance emails I was being flooded with it would have been read and this problem wouldn't have arisen.

I am not doing this to be spiteful or vindictive. Like I said, too much of my time has been wasted on this game already due to seriously flawed forums and messaging system. Whoever designed these forums needs to pull their heads out of their asses. In fact, I am fairly new here, but I have not been involved in a game where the forums didn't **** someone over. I am pretty much giving up on Dom3 MP because of these forums and the lack of any real MP support.

<Hugs all>

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Also, those who say a first turn stale is no big deal have obviously not had much experience playing Jomon.

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I must admit - I could do more. I was so fed up with PM system that I decided to skip that and send just an e-mail to everyone. I also underestimated possible problems with llamabeast's suggestion to use old name.

I totally agree about new forums. Whole community had huge hopes about the new forum. Especially with many days of down time and huge announcements. And we got one of the worst forums ever, with so many annoying things. Like they wanted to get rid of us and force us to make a new forum for that wonderful MP community. And we were quite close to that. I also agree that game should have built-in lobby system with at least info about games, even if it was just a simple interface to get game status, send/receive turns.

P.S. I think it's fair to ask you to play till your teammate finds a sub, even if you made up your mind and won't change it.

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If I was turning myself to AI after every stale, I wouldn't get much experience playing any nation.
You should really meet Baalz, he has taken a sub in one game for Jomon staling 5 first turns. Now one of the top nations.
In another game 1 person had lost an enire army on turn 19 becouse of staling. He has won the game aftermath.

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:re:

Chris, if you're going to complain, please make some sort of effort to get the names right. I'm MA Marignon, and I don't need to be prodded.

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So you are going to ... postpone the game until a Sub has been found? or are you just going to expect someone to want to play Jomon that has staled its first three or four (or more) turns. Also, my teammate doesn't want to play with someone who is starting off so disadvantaged and possibly has no strategy for Jomon.

Okay then, a simple solution. I send in turn 1 (I have it in my filtered email box) rollback the game plug it in, host turn one ... everone else's orders will be exactly the same and it will put the game back on schedule easily with the least amount of hiccups.

If not, well you will probably have to find two subs (I am only guessing, but I think the idea of playing with a seriously hampered partner strikes him as unfair and a waste of time as well).

Zeldor, again I am sorry. I have admined two games now and will never do it again if I have to use these forums, I really do think you have done as great a job as one can expect with the tools you have been given. Please know that I do hold you in high esteem and none of the problems this game is having do I lay at your feet.

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Oh, I've played through stales before. I have no issue when the stale is my fault sucking it up and pushing through. I just have limited time and would like to have a fair start in the few games I have the time to play. This would be the first and only time I will have given up a game because of stales. Please don't misrepresent me so harshly. I do not go AI "every time I stale".

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I keep seeing people say that I should inconvinience myself so that no one else is inconvinienced. Why? No one is offering to go out of their way for my sake, why should I consider doing the same for them? That being said:

Another solution, simple and fair for everyone. Everyone stales turn two and I catch up. Apparently it's no big deal and you'll be able to catch up in 3-4 turns so this shouldn't be a problem.

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Geez if it will stop his crying I vote just roll back to turn one left him get it in and hopefully Llamaserver will still have everyone else's turn one and can host immediately, I'm not exactly sure how that works.

But either way having AI at this point kind of gives an unfair advantage to whoever is close by to it as well since the AI isnt exactly all that impressive of an opponent. Not to mention the fact that if his teammate still wants to play then he's kinda ****ed if Jomon goes AI.

But there is always the option to just forward Jomons turns to his teamamte and let him play both turns until he can find a sub.

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I don't see how checking the forums and your email once a day is an undue burden on your time, especially compared to the hour or more of time a turn takes to do late game. Oh, and the time you've spent posting here about the stale. Twenty three people managed to figure out what was going on with the game without any problems, which leads me to think that the fault does, in fact, lie with you, and not the game admin.

If you don't like your position play a few turns so it's less obviously damaged by the stale and then find a sub for it, it'll probably take less time than I spend on a single late-game turn to do so.