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Tigbit August 17th, 2003 11:49 PM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
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Originally posted by geoschmo:
It's hard for me to argue this point effectively. I have to say that Tuesday will tell the tale. According to the DSL people they have checked everything everywhere. If the meeting between the DSL tech and phone company tech on Tuesday does not bear fruit I have no idea what the next step in the process will be.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's okay, because I am not looking for an argument. I want those who are holding up games to play, because it's hardly fair that we have to wait for months because they don't want to expend the small extra effort to email their turns to the admin.

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If there is anyone out there that wishes to play there game PBEM and the owner is not willing to do so, let me know. I will offer to take the game over and run the turns myself. Either myself or someone else. If we have a group of players wanting to go and the only thinkg holding them up is a game owner, we can find a new game owner.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The admins are not the only problem, and I am specifically addressing the players unwilling to send their turns.

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I am not really sure what you are trying to say here.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My only purpose is to get the games played. Even if your issues (whatever they are) never get resolved there is life after PBW.

How many games were being run on your PBW system before it went down. Now think about how lazy most people are (sorry, can't think of a nice way to put it so I am being blunt so as not to be misunderstood). There are approximately how many games on hold simply because of a few lazy people.

Again, I am not looking to flame or to receive flame. Let's just get these games going. Once PBW is up and going again you can go back to your lethargic ways, I really don't care after that.

Tigbit August 17th, 2003 11:52 PM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
[quote]Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
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Has it occured to you that maybe a lot of people that are hosting games on PBW do it only because hosting it on PBW takes very little time, whereas doing it via PBEM takes a lot more time? Not everyone has time or desire to go through the hassle of processing turns manually every time.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually no, because I am addressing the PLAYERS that refuse to send their turns into an admin who IS willing to go through the trouble. I did indicate this in my original post, Fyron.

Tigbit August 17th, 2003 11:55 PM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
There was only one extended down time of PBW (prior to this mess), and that was from hardware failure. The other downtimes were short ones, hardly anything to be complaining about for a free service.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cut it out Fyron, I am not looking for an argument or a guilt-trip. I want the players in my game to play the game or get out.

BTW, there was one extended down time that you remember.

[ August 17, 2003, 22:57: Message edited by: Gyphon ]

Fyron August 18th, 2003 12:09 AM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
Your Posts seemed to be talking about hosts not willing to process turns manually, not players not sending in plr files to hosts willing to do so.

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Cut it out Fyron, I am not looking for an argument or a guilt-trip.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cut what out? Attempting to put your complaints into perspective?

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I want the players in my game to play the game or get out.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then you should have been more explicit in your Posts, as that is not what it looked like you were saying to me.

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BTW, there was one extended down time that you remember.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, there was one extended down time. It Lasted for a few months, and was due to hardware failure. I am not sure what you consider to be an extended down time... perhaps we should clarify that.

[ August 17, 2003, 23:11: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Tigbit August 18th, 2003 12:24 AM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
Okay, Fyron... you asked for it. Next time READ the Posts. Following are quotes from me... feel free to double check them.

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Are your fingers so lethargic that you cannot go through the extra effort of sending an email?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">From the first post. There is nothing stating admins unwilling to run turns. I admit that I did not state explicity that it is the players I was talking about but any NORMAL mind could figure out that I meant the players.

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That's okay, because I am not looking for an argument. I want those who are holding up games to play, because it's hardly fair that we have to wait for months because they don't want to expend the small extra effort to email their turns to the admin.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OMG! Here I am actually being specific enough even for you, Fyron.

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... I am specifically addressing the players unwilling to send their turns.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If the previous mention was not enough to clue you in.

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Actually no, because I am addressing the PLAYERS that refuse to send their turns into an admin who IS willing to go through the trouble.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Uh oh... your firm grasp on reality is looking rather limp now.

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I want the players in my game to play the game or get out.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The final indication that I am talking about the players. Listen, Fyron... don't debate this issue with me you are obviously ill equiped for it and the basic understanding of reason.

Fyron August 18th, 2003 12:29 AM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
Please remain civil Gyphon. You said you are not looking for a flame, but the tone of your latest Posts is starting to turn into one.

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The game admins can run the turns for everyone. What's the big deal? Are your fingers so lethargic that you cannot go through the extra effort of sending an email? This is a friendly plea to STOP HOLDING UP THE GAMES!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This right here is the gist of your first post on this. It does not mention players at all (and neither does the rest of that post), and an interpretation that you are talking about lazy hosts is equally valid as the interpretation that you are talking about lazy players.

Tigbit August 18th, 2003 12:38 AM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
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The game admins can run the turns for everyone. What's the big deal? Are your fingers so lethargic that you cannot go through the extra effort of sending an email? This is a friendly plea to STOP HOLDING UP THE GAMES!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Flame? Believe me if I intended to flame, you would be crying right now. I am being forceful with one who is unable to grasp my point. Also, I would be laying out a detailed theory to explain exectly why you are unable to.

Okay... looks like we have to tear this part and explain it for you.

"The game admins can run the turns for everyone."

Meaning a simple offering of information in order to get the point accross that one does not need PBW.

"What's the big deal? Are your fingers so lethargic that you cannot go through the extra effort of sending an email?"

See that? "an email". Meaning a single email from... oh lessee... A PLAYER? An admin sends multiple emails. Besides, I can't believe you are still pushing this issue after my generous quoting in my Last post.

Now drop it.

[edit] spelling correction[/edit]

[ August 17, 2003, 23:40: Message edited by: Gyphon ]

Fyron August 18th, 2003 12:42 AM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
Will you please step back and look at this from someone else's point of view? Again, either interpretation of your vague post is equally valid.

DavidG August 18th, 2003 12:43 AM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
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Originally posted by Gyphon:
Again, I am not looking to flame or to receive flame. Let's just get these games going. Once PBW is up and going again you can go back to your lethargic ways, I really don't care after that.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If your not looking for a flame how about you stop insulting the game hosts. If you are getting so upset about not being able to play PBW for a couple weeks you really need to get a life.

Tigbit August 18th, 2003 12:49 AM

Re: PBW Down? - Back up!
 
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Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Gyphon:
Again, I am not looking to flame or to receive flame. Let's just get these games going. Once PBW is up and going again you can go back to your lethargic ways, I really don't care after that.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If your not looking for a flame how about you stop insulting the game hosts. If you are getting so upset about not being able to play PBW for a couple weeks you really need to get a life.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am not concerned with PBW. You guys keep missing that point, and I care not to repeat it yet again... you'll just ignore it again and go back to the original post.

Besides. I have stated, quoted and re-quoted often enough so that you people would understand BY NOW exactly what I was talking about. It's not my fault you are unwilling to let the original post go. You require no other information other then what I have given thus far and seeing as how you are unwilling and unable to take advantage of that I do not care to waste my time any longer. I have things I need to do and talking to walls is not one of them. Cya

*sigh*


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