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Slynky July 3rd, 2003 03:46 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Ragnarok vs. Baron Grazic

2401.6 - Still no meeting of empires yet (as too be expected using Tescos maps)
First place went back and forth for awhile but now Baron has held first for a few turns in a row. Expansion and exploration are still going on and planets are developing nicely. In my home system of !*@&#^$% is...ya right, you think I'm going to give out information about it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
More reports will come as turns progress.

Baron, you should do reports from your viewpoint as well. You usually are the "reporter" for your games so I know you can do it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This could be interesting... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . Could be like some of those comedies I see on on TV from time-to-time where they show sequence of events from the different perspectives of the actors...each telling an entirely different story...hence the comedy... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Taera July 3rd, 2003 03:47 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
ok, now i want to give it a try aswell -- sounds fun! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif explain me in a couple of words how what works?

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 03:52 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taera:
ok, now i want to give it a try aswell -- sounds fun! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif explain me in a couple of words how what works?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You want to take the plunge? Best time ever! Take a look around and see which "combat" thread gets as much interest and participation as this one.

So, join the fun!

Taera July 3rd, 2003 04:00 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
as i said, sounds like fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif how do you do that? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 04:03 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taera:
as i said, sounds like fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif how do you do that? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Stick your name in (I think you just did that... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )...and I'll call you. Of course, I need a telephone number. PM me and tell me a good time to chat a bit. (my dime)

[ July 03, 2003, 03:22: Message edited by: Slynky ]

Taera July 3rd, 2003 04:25 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
sent

Ragnarok July 3rd, 2003 04:42 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I couldn't help but read Baron...It was just too tempting to pass up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ragnarok's "Baron Chasers! Federation" vs. Baron Grazic's "EEEvil EEEmpire"

2406.8 - Well a few (3 or 4) turns ago I made my first charge into Baron territory with one of my smaller fleets. I made my way into his system to find a few colonies and a fleet of similar size just slightly smaller. I attack and get wiped out. Only to realize I forgot to train my fleet before it left for battle. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif I'm assuming that Baron had trained his fleet and that is why he whooped me up so bad but he also had some superior(not by much though) technology then myself. I really didn't mind losing that fleet as I needed the maintenance room for larger more advanced fleets anyways. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

More updates to come...

Taera July 3rd, 2003 05:11 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
uh oh, the cold war of (dis)information http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

thanks slynky, well, Taera here, all set and ready to umm... CONQUER! thats right! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
wonder who'll be my first match...

Ragnarok July 3rd, 2003 05:16 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taera:
uh oh, the cold war of (dis)information http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

thanks slynky, well, Taera here, all set and ready to umm... CONQUER! thats right! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
wonder who'll be my first match...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, according to the league page it will be Lord Chane. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But I don't know when Last update was made. I'm sure not too long ago.

Edit: If you don't know already, the page can be found here. Yes, here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ July 03, 2003, 04:17: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 05:22 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taera:
uh oh, the cold war of (dis)information http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

thanks slynky, well, Taera here, all set and ready to umm... CONQUER! thats right! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
wonder who'll be my first match...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I hope you have fun. As I said in the phone call, I'm not the best player around...that's for sure, but I know a few tips. And let us know how you're doing with some updates...I can promise you I will read them as I read ALL of them.

Baron Grazic July 3rd, 2003 05:27 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ragnarok's "Baron Chasers! Federation" vs. Baron Grazic's "EEEvil EEEmpire"

2407.1 - After the success of the EEEvil's first battle against the "Baron Chasers", the EEEvil's Northern Fleet attcked the Colony of Ishantrissti IX. This planet being a Huge, Breathable colony of the "Baron Chashers", we were prepared for Weapon Platforms, fighters and mines. The Northern Fleet was so surprised to find only 38 mines, they almost forgot to destroy the colony... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
{1 Point to Rags, for winning that mind game round}

The EEEvil EEEmpire once again takes their rightful first place, they claims over 50% of the galaxy and have 2 well trained fleets of over 100 Battleships in each...

{No looking Rags, you promised}
PS. Well perhaps you should halve the number of ships.
PPS. When I say Battleships, I really mean - Light Cruisers.
PPPS. Well mostly Light Cruisers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Baron Grazic July 3rd, 2003 05:36 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Welcome aboard Taera.
Get ready for some fast action...

Ragnarok July 3rd, 2003 06:23 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ragnarok's "Baron Chasers! Federation" vs. Baron Grazic's "EEEvil EEEmpire"

2407.9 - Baron came into one of my systems 3 turns ago with a large fleet. (80 plus ships IIRC)
I was at a planet training my fleet of 55 ships or so, so I sent them after him and 2 turns later battle takes place only to increase his fleet size to 92 ships. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Did I mention I hate boarding parties?! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif I have nothing large enough to stop Baron now. It looks to be the first time I will not go past 100 turns in the whole tourney, unless I force Baron to chase me all over the place to take out all my planets but that'd just be cheesey. So as soon as my Last fleet is dead it is surrender time I do believe.

One thing that hurt me is my home system. It had nothing but my home planet in it. It is complete empty except for the 17 asteriod fields in it. So it took along time for me to get my empire developing. It took 2 turns just to get out of my home system (6 spaces from warp point) and then hardly any GOOD planets around. Also being cut off so soon hurt, the way this map was set up made it to where there were 2 choke points cutting me off from rest of map; and they were way too close to my home system for comfort. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Oh well, it was a fun game and I learned alot from my mistakes that I made. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Kudos to Baron for the game and I wish him the best up the hill.

Asmala, be ready to move Grazic up soon as this game should be over soon. If not tonight then tomorrow night for sure. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ragnarok July 3rd, 2003 06:39 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ragnarok's "Baron Chasers! Federation" vs. Baron Grazic's "EEEvil EEEmpire"

2408.1 - Not much to report this soon after my Last one. But I have officially surrendered to Baron. It was alot of fun and I enjoyed getting beat soundly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif My streak of games for consecutive games played with at least 100 turns has finally come to an end. And it's all Barons fault! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
Once again, I thank you Baron for a well played game.

Asmala, match me up with someone else when you have the time. Thanks... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Baron Grazic July 3rd, 2003 07:00 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Thanks for the great game Rags, and sorry to break your record. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I think I still hold the record for the shortest game however - 8 turns - 1.49 Koth game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

I have got to admit that luck played highly in this game. I thought I had a bad start, with only 1 Tiny Done colony in my Home System, 2 small domed worlds in the system to the West & a small, medium & large domed worlds to the North. Looking at Rags starting possition, I had a great start.

{Tesco - Do you want to check that map, starting with your Home World in an asteroid belt, doesn't seem fair}

The reason I won? I went straight for Ship Capture, ignoring Mines, and luckily got the middle before Ragnarok could mine it. Big gamble but it paid off this time...

I noticed Ragnarok had out researched me extensively, when I saw Cruisers, ECMs, Combat Sensors, Armor against my LCs with DUCs only. But I had gambled by researching Ice Colonisation.

The third big gamble I took was joining my 2 fleets into the 80 plus ships. This left both my front systems defenseless. The fleet was highly trained but most ships were supporting DUC 3-5s. Everytime we fought I seemed to have first attack, allowing my boarders to capture his ships.

Great game Warlord Ragnarok, sorry that everytime we rolled the dice, I got the sixes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 03:29 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2402.3

First contact. We each have an escort looking at each other from opposite wormholes.

Not much else to report. We've swapped 1st and 2nd place through much of the first turns (as colony ships came and went) but I've been in 2nd now for several turns.

I thought my home system sucked a bit but then I read about Rags' start and won't complain as much as I was going to ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ). Two warp lines out of my home systems each leading to "nothing" systems. Then a 3rd and a 4th system elsewhere with nothing (ugh!). But I've managed to find some places and at least my home system had a few available planets.

Stone Mill July 3rd, 2003 05:02 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Thanks for the great game Rags, and sorry to break your record. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I think I still hold the record for the shortest game however - 8 turns - 1.49 Koth game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

I have got to admit that luck played highly in this game. I thought I had a bad start, with only 1 Tiny Done colony in my Home System, 2 small domed worlds in the system to the West & a small, medium & large domed worlds to the North. Looking at Rags starting possition, I had a great start.

{Tesco - Do you want to check that map, starting with your Home World in an asteroid belt, doesn't seem fair}

The reason I won? I went straight for Ship Capture, ignoring Mines, and luckily got the middle before Ragnarok could mine it. Big gamble but it paid off this time...

I noticed Ragnarok had out researched me extensively, when I saw Cruisers, ECMs, Combat Sensors, Armor against my LCs with DUCs only. But I had gambled by researching Ice Colonisation.

The third big gamble I took was joining my 2 fleets into the 80 plus ships. This left both my front systems defenseless. The fleet was highly trained but most ships were supporting DUC 3-5s. Everytime we fought I seemed to have first attack, allowing my boarders to capture his ships.

Great game Warlord Ragnarok, sorry that everytime we rolled the dice, I got the sixes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nice game fellas... I often find that these matches are very replayable (they don't get boring) because of the gambles and guesses.

Do I go on the attack and leave a system defenseless?

Do I forego critical tech areas (mines) to get an edge in another field?

Nice accounts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 06:47 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
OK KOTHers, there are some really interesting games brewing at the Top of The Hill:

Asmala -vs- RexTorres
Primitive -vs- Mark the Merciful

As we all know (well, IF you read the threads... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ), Asmala, or the young upstart as he was dubbed as he made his way swiftly up the hill, battled Stone and lost in an incredible game. Now, he's on his way back. And RexTorres, whose reputation has been known for years as an expert player. This should be a great match-up!

Then, but not to dimminish, there is the rusty spear of the Primitive one -vs- the uppity English attitude of the mercililess one! Mark is undefeated in KOTH and Primitive is brutal. I have played (and lost to) both.

I don't know about everyone else, but I demand updates! ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Oh, and not to turn it into any kind of national pride or anything...only one of those four live in the US. Says a LOT for the wonderful international community we have here!

[ July 03, 2003, 17:49: Message edited by: Slynky ]

tbontob July 3rd, 2003 07:07 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Hmmm...

Reading the Baron Grazic vs Ragnarok game I wonder if there would be any interest in a "mirror image universe".

Rags starting in a asteroid belt is a definite disadvantage unless his opponent found himself in the same situation.

Taking nothing away from the well deserved victory of Baron Grazic, a very good player could find himself losing to a novice player in a game in which the novice player has the advantage of the setup.

Taking the reverse, the novice can find himself slaughtered within a very short time if the very experience player has the advantage of the setup.

Games like chess and checkers have a mirror image set-up and except for the advantage given to the player who has the first move, winning the game is very dependant upon knowledge and experience.

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 07:19 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tbontob:
Hmmm...

Reading the Baron Grazic vs Ragnarok game I wonder if there would be any interest in a "mirror image universe".

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you are suggesting a galaxy with exact systems and planets on each "side", it has its merits. The downside, IMHO, is making a bunch of maps. Also, though people get bad breaks, it "taxes" each player as he sees what he has at his disposal and reacts/plans accordingly. Though some barriers can't be overcome no matter how good you are, for the most part, I don't think a superior player will lose to an average player even though he may start out with a slight disadvantage.

Looking over a new map each game and not knowing what the other person has at his disposal adds to the game...not subracts...IMHO.

tbontob July 3rd, 2003 08:04 PM

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There is the added disadvantage in that the loser cannot salvage his ego by saying the other side had the better starting position.

Another, is that the poorer player has a better chance at winning against a better planer than in a mirror universe. Assuming of course he has the better starting position and that should happen about half the time.

And map preparation is a distinct disadvantage. I imagine it would take a fair amount of work to prepare a collection of maps so as to give some uncertainty to the universe the player is playing in.

That being said, the power of the computer is in its ability to perform repetitive tasks and if we wanted to, I feel certain an algorithym could be developed to make mirror image maps.

Stone Mill July 3rd, 2003 08:14 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
OK KOTHers, there are some really interesting games brewing at the Top of The Hill:

Asmala -vs- RexTorres
Primitive -vs- Mark the Merciful

As we all know (well, IF you read the threads... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ), Asmala, or the young upstart as he was dubbed as he made his way swiftly up the hill, battled Stone and lost in an incredible game. Now, he's on his way back. And RexTorres, whose reputation has been known for years as an expert player. This should be a great match-up!

Then, but not to dimminish, there is the rusty spear of the Primitive one -vs- the uppity English attitude of the mercililess one! Mark is undefeated in KOTH and Primitive is brutal. I have played (and lost to) both.

I don't know about everyone else, but I demand updates! ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Oh, and not to turn it into any kind of national pride or anything...only one of those four live in the US. Says a LOT for the wonderful international community we have here!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great newscast. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I'm interested too. We have some seasoned vets on their second climb to the throne room, an undefeated streak, an undefeated King, and some dude in a loincloth, who has progressed impressively of late!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 08:27 PM

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Nice synopsis, Stone.

In my opinion, this thread is one of the most active of all. And people keep seeing it near the top of the forum and wonder, "What the hell is this KOTH stuff?" Then, reading a few accounts and looking at the KOTH site, decide why not join in the fun. I just called long distance to Canada Last night to give some tips to Kaera who wants to take the plunge (and asked for some tips).

So, good, better or best, a lot of players are in KOTH and from what I have seen, it's a small (and growing) clique of guys who have a lot of fun trying to be the King Of The Hill. Some funny accounts of games, some good tips, reports of how different people approached their game, and always good sportsmanship.

As I have said before...KOTH is the most fun I have in PBW. I tremble when I unzip a file and quickly scan for the size of the combat file (and go, "Whew!", when it's zero). I know I'm not the best player and others who join will probably feel the same way, but, ONE day, I might learn enough (and get lucky enough) to look at the others who are trying to take the crown away from me...hehe. And so will they.

Erax July 3rd, 2003 08:42 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
[non-KOTH intervention] I really like the KOTH League format. I have a group of friends who meet FTF to play boardgames every so often and we always talk about doing a this league or a that league. I'm going to suggest a KOTH-type league next time the subject comes up. [/non-KOTH intervention]

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 08:48 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erax:
[non-KOTH intervention] I really like the KOTH League format. I have a group of friends who meet FTF to play boardgames every so often and we always talk about doing a this league or a that league. I'm going to suggest a KOTH-type league next time the subject comes up. [/non-KOTH intervention]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I grew up on board games. Starting with Tactics II and then to Blitzkreig. (to digress, became a pretty good chess player...USCF-rated "B" class amateur and many trophys). Board games KICK ***!

Having said that...the dilemma was always this...

For example, one of my favorite games was TSS (Terrible Swift Sword) by Superior Simulations. It had hundreds of counters reflecting the actual units that were at Gettysburg. Three maps that had to be layed out. Needless to say (and to make this short), it couldn't be played in a day. The problem was that a room had to be dedicated to its setup. And this is what I think has led (a bit) to the demise of the board games...it's much easier to do the same thing on a computer and just file the game away.

OK, I'm done rambling..hehe.

Asmala July 3rd, 2003 10:02 PM

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Welcome Taera. And yes, the KOTH page was (as usual http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) up to date so Taera's opponent is Lord Chane.

You want updates... I'll write soon a short report from my game against RexTorres.

tesco samoa July 3rd, 2003 10:04 PM

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Ok... Will remake the maps... Did not realise there were ruins...

Taera July 3rd, 2003 10:18 PM

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Thanks Asmala. Will decide on settings ASAP and upload the empire file.

BBegemott July 3rd, 2003 10:30 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by thontob:
There is the added disadvantage in that the loser cannot salvage his ego by saying the other side had the better starting position.

Another, is that the poorer player has a better chance at winning against a better planer than in a mirror universe. Assuming of course he has the better starting position and that should happen about half the time.

And map preparation is a distinct disadvantage. I imagine it would take a fair amount of work to prepare a collection of maps so as to give some uncertainty to the universe the player is playing in.

That being said, the power of the computer is in its ability to perform repetitive tasks and if we wanted to, I feel certain an algorithym could be developed to make mirror image maps
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have played a game (The Tug of War) which used the mirror map, created by Gandalph. If you are willing to play an absolutely equal start game- I recommend you use it. There can't be more equal start, I think.

Asmala July 3rd, 2003 11:03 PM

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Black Hole Riders (Asmala) -vs- Rex Enclave (RexTorres) 2402.1

Things didn't look very good for Black Hole Riders. The expansion of Rex Enclave has been great. If I'm not able to break through his border systems he controls about 3/4 of the galaxy. The first battles has also occured, and the result is dim. Three planet losses, one abandoned planet and one lost colony ship for Black Hole Riders. No losses for Rex Enclave.

Slynky July 4th, 2003 12:34 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Asmala:
Black Hole Riders (Asmala) -vs- Rex Enclave (RexTorres) 2402.1

Things didn't look very good for Black Hole Riders. The expansion of Rex Enclave has been great. If I'm not able to break through his border systems he controls about 3/4 of the galaxy. The first battles has also occured, and the result is dim. Three planet losses, one abandoned planet and one lost colony ship for Black Hole Riders. No losses for Rex Enclave.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wow! Things look that bad after 21 turns? What's the world coming to? ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif )

Baron Grazic July 4th, 2003 01:34 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I think I would have to vote against an image map, basically because it would mean that you knew exactly where they started, once you knew their Race type, you would know exactly how many possible colonies they could have.
I like the option of having similar start possitions, but keeping you guessing as to details. One of the reasons I haven't looked at any of Tesco's maps yet.

And for all you lurkers out there :- Best part of Koth is the quickness. I've finished my Last 2 games in less than a week each...

Baron Grazic July 4th, 2003 01:39 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Asmala:
Black Hole Riders (Asmala) -vs- Rex Enclave (RexTorres) 2402.1

Things didn't look very good for Black Hole Riders. The expansion of Rex Enclave has been great. If I'm not able to break through his border systems he controls about 3/4 of the galaxy. The first battles has also occured, and the result is dim. Three planet losses, one abandoned planet and one lost colony ship for Black Hole Riders. No losses for Rex Enclave.

I don't know who to roote for. RexTorres is great player but on the other hand I haven't played Asmala, but from all accounts is great too, plus he does run the comp now.
Anyone know what the odds for a draw is? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

DavidG July 4th, 2003 03:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Ok... Will remake the maps... Did not realise there were ruins...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Guess I'm the only one that likes Ruins. It adds another element to the decision making process. "Do I go for the small ruins planet or the good one?" The only thing really unbalancing about them is giving a colony tech. Is it possible to make a map with the ruins only giving certain techs?

geoschmo July 4th, 2003 05:08 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I don't think that is possible David.

I don't think it's that most people don't like ruins. It's just that they are a little bit too much of a wildcard for a game like Koth. It's like instead of the winner being the one with the best strategy it becomes which one is lucky enough to get the right ruin close by.

Geoschmo

DavidG July 4th, 2003 05:32 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
It's like instead of the winner being the one with the best strategy it becomes which one is lucky enough to get the right ruin close by.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sounds perfect. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Then maybe we all get a chance to be king. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Taera July 4th, 2003 05:44 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
not a chance, im coming to throw you all off the hill! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ July 04, 2003, 04:44: Message edited by: Taera ]

Mark the Merciful July 4th, 2003 12:50 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
The Kif (Mark the Merciful) vs The Primitive Horde (Primitive) turn; 2402.1

(Standard K.O.T.H. settings)

We seem to have started a reasonable distance apart, and have now met in three different systems across the galaxy. At first my cowardly Colonist captains were running from Primitive's scouts (all that propoganda about rusty spears), but it turns out they were unarmed. We've only had one combat enounter so far, but I forsee a period of skirmishing as we try to establish firm borders.

Mark

[ July 04, 2003, 11:50: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ]

Slynky July 4th, 2003 09:40 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2403.5

Things are happening now. Been in 2nd place for about 20 turns now. So, though score doesn't mean everything, it does give some indications of how things are going.

I've pulled a few tricks on the "Clan" like colonizing a planet near his frigates and landing with mines (that launched the turn he thought he could glass it before I could build mines) and capturing a frigate of his (though I had just gotten frigate ability http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif ). I have several boarding ships built and hope to capture some of his "breathers" that might be wondering around...*crossing fingers*.

Otherwise, he's lost a few ships to mines here and there and killed a couple of my escorts (suitable servieces were held).

But my attempt to block a few holes were too late and he has several frigates in "my" area. I was one turn late colonizing a planet that was a huge breathable to him... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif . But that's the way thing go sometimes.

Still hampered by my main shipyards (in my home system) having to move their products 4 turns just to get near the game play...UGH!

So, a few tricks here and there won't make the difference, I think. My plan is to see how long I can Last. You know, make a respectable showing...then retreat to the bottom of the hill where I seem to frequent... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . Of course, trying to look on the bright side, at least my losses (counting the current one) have been to people who are in the top 10 on the KOTH site.

AND, hehe, I made him stay up past his bedtime...at least I'm making it a bit suspenseful for him... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

DavidG July 5th, 2003 12:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
I've pulled a few tricks on the "Clan" like colonizing a planet near his frigates and landing with mines (that launched the turn he thought he could glass it before I could build mines
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pretty sly. I was wondering what happened there. hehe http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

tesco samoa July 5th, 2003 01:17 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
new updated koth maps are up there.

verson 1.1

or the real koth

Slynky July 5th, 2003 02:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
I've pulled a few tricks on the "Clan" like colonizing a planet near his frigates and landing with mines (that launched the turn he thought he could glass it before I could build mines

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pretty sly. I was wondering what happened there. hehe http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Someone once famous said, "I may be drunk but I'm not so drunk that I don't know I'm drunk."

That is a weird way of saying, I expect to see a few surprises/tricks from you as well. Failing that, brute force will probably wipe me like a raw booger... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Ragnarok July 5th, 2003 05:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
...

... You know, make a respectable showing...then retreat to the bottom of the hill where I seem to frequent... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . Of course, trying to look on the bright side, at least my losses (counting the current one) have been to people who are in the top 10 on the KOTH site.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, if you lose anytime soon you'll match up with me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But it looks like you're in a interesting game right now. I look forward to more reports.

Slynky July 5th, 2003 05:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
...

... You know, make a respectable showing...then retreat to the bottom of the hill where I seem to frequent... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . Of course, trying to look on the bright side, at least my losses (counting the current one) have been to people who are in the top 10 on the KOTH site.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, if you lose anytime soon you'll match up with me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But it looks like you're in a interesting game right now. I look forward to more reports.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, one thing is for sure, Rags, I think it would be fun to have a game with you...hehe. You're a quality player, have lots of fun, a good sport, and, well, narrate well... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

I suspect it would be a contest of the game AND the narration...hehe.

Slynky July 5th, 2003 03:13 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2404.5

9 turns Last night ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ).

Of course, I seem to be putting off the inevitable slowly (or maybe NOT so slowly).

There are 2 paths into my area. (well, the most popular areas...hehe). I've tried to block them up but now, after several ship losses, I'm staring at 8 ships on one approach (destroyers, frigates, and a few LCs) and 17 ships on the other approach (destroyers and LCs). And me not with much to stop them.

Maybe Rags I will play after all... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

DavidG July 5th, 2003 04:12 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2404.5

9 turns Last night ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ).

Of course, I seem to be putting off the inevitable slowly (or maybe NOT so slowly).

There are 2 paths into my area. (well, the most popular areas...hehe). I've tried to block them up but now, after several ship losses, I'm staring at 8 ships on one approach (destroyers, frigates, and a few LCs) and 17 ships on the other approach (destroyers and LCs). And me not with much to stop them.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mmmmm the truth or psycological warfare... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Not to worry soon that minor ship design mistake will be fixed and they'll be on the move.

Slynky July 5th, 2003 05:33 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2404.5

9 turns Last night ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ).

Of course, I seem to be putting off the inevitable slowly (or maybe NOT so slowly).

There are 2 paths into my area. (well, the most popular areas...hehe). I've tried to block them up but now, after several ship losses, I'm staring at 8 ships on one approach (destroyers, frigates, and a few LCs) and 17 ships on the other approach (destroyers and LCs). And me not with much to stop them.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mmmmm the truth or psycological warfare... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I do have a little surprise. Probably won't help me much in the long run, but I suspect I've been a bit of fun anyhow.

Hey, at least I can say I sneaked into 1st place for a few turns... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . I guess that will change after this turn... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Joachim July 6th, 2003 07:23 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Joachim V Gandalph
2403.4

Praetor Joachim sighed. The Last few weeks had been hard for the Silesian people. All the best minds had said that the prophecies were just fairytales - designed to stop the Silesians from reaching out across the stars.
But they were true. The Tesli'k had appeared.
We responded by occupying as many worlds as we could. Our scientists strove to get more weapons to fight them off. Ships died - on both sides, many to the infernal 'mine'. The battle for survival seems to have settled in for prolonged trech warfare.
Praetor Joachim turned back to the cabinet - "Well, where do we send the battle fleet and strike them down first?"
-----
The border seems to be established between us. Mines and small skirmishes have been the only actions so far - plenty of pretty lights over new colonies! We have traded 1st place back and forth but I seem to have held it for the Last few turns - very surprising given my mud covered peasant status! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Grandpa Kim July 6th, 2003 08:22 PM

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The forces of the GK Confederation have finally forced the surrender of the remnants of the Gozguy Empire.

Luck played a big part in this game. The initial borders seemed to split the map neatly in half but as it turned out, I had the lion's share of good systems while Goz had all the empty systems. Relentless pressure gradually forced him further and further back till an honorable surrender was his only option. I hope Goz gets a better start next time; he's a good player.

I'm ready to move up the hill and be cannon fodder for my next worthy opponent.

Slynky July 6th, 2003 09:13 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2405.8

13 turns since Last update. A lot has been happening.

He had 8 warships (with minesweepers) coming down one "alley" toward me but I was able to take care of them (with some losses). But the other side, where he had 17 ships, grew to a fleet of 27 ships with minesweeping ability of the magic 100. I tried to hold him off with fleets of 8, 6, 5, etc., but though my ships were technically superior, couldn't withstand the brute force. All I could do was chip him down bit by bit. After 6 or 7 systems were glassed, I finally killed off the fleet...except for a few stragglers (some got picked off, others didn't). Losing a huge breathable (in that run) hurt plenty!

Through all this, I have managed to stay in first place. Ship count, I'm guessing, since I have WAY (over 50... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ...can't give too much info away).

Now, I have 3 big fleets (well, the one in the east isn't so big, but it doesn't need to be). I should be able to put up some defense now and get some of my planets back. (re-colonize)

The Last event to happen was when a strange ship flew over one of my colonies and bestowed upon the population bag after bag of Big Macs. I tried to tell them to be wary of gifts from strangers but they gobbled them up and all were poisoned! We will have to endeavor to use BK Whopper retaliation!

Well, I'm still managing to be competitive. I had hoped to Last longer than any other of his opponents but when Ilooked at his record, I see he has a game that Lasted nearly 150 turns. DRAT! Guess I'll have to settle for second longest game... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ July 06, 2003, 20:14: Message edited by: Slynky ]


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