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Mysterio April 6th, 2010 05:01 PM

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I'm wondering if this is a bug. Last turn, Man's Gift of Health was dispelled. This turn, his units are still showing an HP buff, even while in enemy dominion. I witnessed this in many battles I had with him in multiple provinces.

thejeff April 6th, 2010 05:04 PM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
No. It takes awhile for hp bonuses to wear off.

You see the same thing with pretender/prophet dominion hp boosts and life drain boosts.

Micah April 6th, 2010 05:49 PM

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I believe the exact formula is half of the excess per turn.

horza April 7th, 2010 06:38 AM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
Playing a one-on-one MP game we had a climactic battle on turn 70 that was wonderfully buggy: a staff of storms that didn't provide Storm; Solar Brilliance that didn't affect undead, but did overwhelm Darkness; Flame and Fire Storms being cast by the AI without gems.

Unfortunately we weren't patching as we went along - this was run under 3.21b. Any point in posting/sending the game files?

(Rather more unfortunately we didn't backup properly and can't run it again. As the host and loser of the battle I can only blame myself.)

Are there any known bugs with large amounts of BF spells interacting weirdly?

Edi April 7th, 2010 07:59 AM

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You could send the files to Illwinter per the shortlist post instructions, but no guarantee that anything will turn up or whether Johan will even take a look at such an old patch version.

horza April 7th, 2010 02:39 PM

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Probably not worth it. We both took another look at it (NB this was a very big battle), and a lot of the weirdness can be explained: so many BF spells fired not all the pentagrams could be displayed, so Storm was there after all. And there was a fire mage who apparently woke up around round 30 to use his gems.

However Solar Brilliance definitely did no damage to any undead - nor even MR5 skeletons. Is there an interaction with Darkness we're not aware of possibly? It previously appeared that SB always superceded Darkness in terms of cancelling any Att/Per reductions and inflicting blindness. However possibly SB + Darkness cancels the anti-undead effect.

Just to complicate things further we'd previously fought under Darkness followed by SB, but in this case it was Darkness, Solar Brilliance, followed by Darkness again. My opponent was using Tarts and was hoping a second casting would trump the SB.

chrispedersen April 7th, 2010 07:34 PM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
Interesting.. I thought I've cast

Darkness.....(SB) .... Darkness to effect before.

zzcat April 20th, 2010 10:09 PM

Re: Bug Thread: Discussion
 
Winter wolves led by a niefel giant will attack random province when illwinter(Niefelhelm's national GE, not the developer's company:)) is present. But niefel giant has no magic leadership so the mindless wolves dissolve as soon as they appears. Perhaps we should give niefel giant magic leadership 10.

Sombre April 21st, 2010 07:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zzcat (Post 741462)
Winter wolves led by a niefel giant will attack random province when illwinter(Niefelhelm's national GE, not the developer's company:)) is present. But niefel giant has no magic leadership so the mindless wolves dissolve as soon as they appears. Perhaps we should give niefel giant magic leadership 10.

I never noticed that, but you're right. Pretty retarded.

Yeah he should get magical leadership then.

thejeff April 21st, 2010 08:06 AM

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I could swear I've seen that work, without the wolves dissolving. Maybe a CBM change?
What would be a really nice boost to a very thematic, but not very useful spell is giving Niefel Giants 1H, so they can self-bless when they're commanders. Shouldn't affect anything other than this spell, since I doubt they be worth a GoR anyway.


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