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Loser September 22nd, 2003 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by DavidG:
If there was the desire it would be possible. I'll bet they could prosecute someon from overseas if they sent GW Bush a letter bomb.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Indeed, in fact if anyone in the U.S. recieves a letter bomb from anywhere it will be investigated. And it will be worth it. And they will spend the money required to hunt the person down, if possible. But you've still got pretty poor odds if the fellow is writing from Honduras. Remember, we never did catch the Anthrax character.

When I say feasible, I don't mean possible. Sure it's possible, but you'd have a hard time arguing that money needs to be spent there when it could be put to more useful ends.

DavidG September 22nd, 2003 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Loser:

When I say feasible, I don't mean possible. Sure it's possible, but you'd have a hard time arguing that money needs to be spent there when it could be put to more useful ends.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heheh. yea I knew what you meant. Guess I was just feeling argumentative because these spammers piss me off so much.

I wonder if anyone knows how hard it really is to find out the origin of spam? I know it's impossible for average joes like me but for someone with the right technical knowlegde...

[ September 22, 2003, 15:11: Message edited by: DavidG ]

Loser September 22nd, 2003 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by DavidG:
I know it's impossible for average joes like me but for someone with the right technical knowlegde...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Try one of the Microsoft Is Evil threads. Those seem to attract some of the highly technical.

As for where it comes from, why? Just start ruthlessly punishing the companies who advertise with it. It's not like they're hard to find, the spam is trying to lead you right to them!

JLS September 23rd, 2003 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by Alpha Kodiak:
Unfortunately, one of the things that the kids like from the kid sites are various email updates and such. The only way for that to work is to give an email address that will stick around for a while. One solution might be to use an account until the spam starts getting bad, then get a new account. That doesn't change the fact that the situation is just plain wrong.If someone were caught giving my kids porn through any other media, they would be elligible for long term free room and board in a government provided institution.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif
Not just "caught giving my kids" but even offering it to a child. The day will come for any and all, and this should be a International Law as to prevent this junk from coming in from abroad; as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Loser September 24th, 2003 03:55 PM

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There you go.

Narrew September 24th, 2003 07:44 PM

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If you go to CompanyX web site that has interesting inof, but dont want to give YOUR e-mail address, just give them Webmaster@CompanyX.com, that way they will spam their webmaster hehe, I love this one.

DavidG September 24th, 2003 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by Loser:
There you go.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cool!! Anyone know the details of this law? It be interesting to see and to see if there are any loopholes.

I had a though Last week that a solution to spam might be to simply pass a law that says all <insert definition of spam here> must have the word 'Advertisement' in the subject line. Then it would be trivial to filter out if you want while the 'I have a right to advertise by business' crowd would have nothing to complain about.

Loser September 25th, 2003 12:13 AM

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Unfortunately, Mr. G, the spam would still be eating up bandwidth and clogging Mail Servers.

Baron Grazic September 30th, 2003 06:03 AM

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I was recently at a Secure Technology Conferance and they were quoting stats from a Gartner survey that says that by 2004 50% of all email received will be spam.
According to their studies 58.4% of spam orginates from the US, with China coming second with only 5.6% and Great Britian 5.2%.
This gives the indication that the US needs to start the anti-spamming initiatives and ensure they follow thru...
If we want spam stopped completely, it is the big ISPs that should start the process, since they have the technology, information and might behind them to combat it.
Having a company or Govt body doing IP scans and contacting the companies out there that have mistakenly activated 'Mail Routing' would also help in a small way. If the spammers are unable to bounch emails from unsuspecting company routers then tracing their source will be so much easier.
Just my rant for the day...

Instar September 30th, 2003 06:21 AM

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Recently on slashdot I read about several anti-Spam blacklist servers have been dedicated denial of service (DDoS) to death. I wonder who was behind it... www.spamhaus.org I think has a lot of really good resources on it. Myself, I have one clean account and one throwaway that Ive been using for a while now. I get over 100 junk mail a day or so. Its nice to think that I am popular or something.


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