Re: Soy Bad?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not exactly a scientific study. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Actually sounds a lot like the logic some people used to use to prove smoking is not unhealthy.

After reading a few more articles on Soy I'm not about to change my eating habits to avoid it. But I think I would avoid giving it to an infant or taking it in massive quantities.

Re: Soy Bad?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I want proof. This comment just sounds like a vehicle for your (black) book.
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Re: Soy Bad?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I want proof. This comment just sounds like a vehicle for your (black) book.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'd rather not show you people proof, and I am quite sure that none of you would rather see my proof. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Soy Bad?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">yeah, but aren't all east asians short? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Soy Bad?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What's that supposed to mean NPCM?

[ March 06, 2004, 23:05: Message edited by: TerranC ]

Re: Soy Bad?
 

I might point out that that artical did say that less procesed soy products (like tofu etc) are not as bad as other soy products.

Re: Soy Bad?
 

I tried a soy product once and didn't like it, I won't make that mistake again. The same thing goes for Tofu, yuk! When I want something with little to no taste, I'll take mushrooms any day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: Soy Bad?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">or Potatoes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ March 07, 2004, 20:37: Message edited by: Wardad ]

Re: Soy Bad?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">yeah, but aren't all east asians short? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not 'all', just the ones who eat the traditional diet of mostly rice. And it's the rice that stunts them. There is an enzyme in it that inhibits the absorption of iron and the lack of iron slows their growth down. When they come to the US and start eating like Americans they get taller (and unfortunately also get the same diet-related diseases as other Americans... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif )

Re: Soy Bad?
 

From a project page on genetic alteration of rice to improve third-world nutrition:

http://dragon.zoo.utoronto.ca/~J02T0101A/nutrition.htm

Iron rich rice could be on its way very shortly. Researchers are focusing on three different transgenes to solve the iron deficiency problem (11).

* Gene encoding the phytase enzyme that breaks down phytate; a molecule that prevents absorption of the ingested iron by binding to iron in the gut.
* Gene encoding for a cysteine rich protein which helps iron absorption in the gut.
* Gene encoding the protein ferritin that stores iron in the rice grains.

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Apparently 'phytate' is present in most or all of the grains that people eat, but either the phytate content of rice is very high or it's harder to properly seperate the phytate from the rest of the grain (milling to remove the husk) because iron deficiency is a big problem in the regions of the world where rice is eaten as the bulk of the diet. Yet vegetarians elsewhere in the world who live only on grains & vegetables don't (necessarily) have iron deficiency problems. So it's not necessarily lack of meat that leads to iron deficiency.

[ March 09, 2004, 05:18: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]