Re: Religious Talisman - unbalancing or not?
 

Or have it selectable at game setup.

Religious_________2000 pts.
Hidden Religious__3000 pts.

Re: Religious Talisman - unbalancing or not?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think that's the point he was trying to make -- it would be "better" if you could only discover these traits through interaction. (I put "better" in quotes because I'm not sure I agree... but it does make for an interesting twist). And your "painfully obvious" examples carry a few assumptions, I think, that don't necessarily apply to any given game...

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[ May 05, 2004, 20:10: Message edited by: spoon ]

Re: Religious Talisman - unbalancing or not?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, good idea. Post it in the SE5 wishlist thread!

Re: Religious Talisman - unbalancing or not?
 

That item has been sent to MM.. On the level of what you can see on initial contact... I believe that you will know nothing... And the options to show what can and cannot be seen will be shown. Such as Ship names , planet names, Ship classes , Race descriptions and traits.

Now I would love it if everything was named differently for each race... And that as one race updates their names etc... They can only see it... For Systems, Planets , Ships..

Re: Religious Talisman - unbalancing or not?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">How so? It is very hard to hide the fact that your ships use organic technology, or crystalline. It is hard to miss someone from a deeply religious race if you converse with them... just talking with them yields all the clues you need... "deeply religious" does not mean "is religious", it means "is very religious, religion deeply permeates all aspects of their lives". Or it could be "deeply spiritual", which would have a similar affect...

Re: Religious Talisman - unbalancing or not?
 

1) Seeing a ship across the system does not mean (necesarrily) that you can scan it for it's makeup.

2) I could be Deeply Religious, but fear persecution (which, funny enough, is what would happen in a game against experienced players), so I keep quiet about it.

3) I could be Deeply Religious, and part of my religion is to not talk to outsiders. You wouldn't know if I was religious, xenophobic, crazy, or what.

Your reasoning just seemed a little steeped in role-playing, which is fine and all, but not something which should necessarily apply to SE4.

Re: Religious Talisman - unbalancing or not?
 

Roleplaying should most certainly apply to SE... this isn't chess here.

And anyways... this is why I suggested a field for every racial trait, so you can mod it however you would like...

[ May 05, 2004, 23:28: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: Religious Talisman - unbalancing or not?
 

Well, at least some of the racial traits aren't obvious. For example, "ancient race" or "lucky". It would be nice to be able to hide those traits.

Re: Religious Talisman - unbalancing or not?
 

It would be nice to have an option to turn off these sorts of details of other races in the game setup screen as well.