Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, I'm simply making a decision that I won't have anything to do with a known cheater.

Now, will you please stay out of threads that deal with games that you aren't welcome in?

Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

I would like to take Jotuns, Graeme, if you are still accepting players in your game.


Also are you going to play "dry" Version of Karan map or regular Version? (IMHO "dry" Version where large sea is not connected to every small pool in game is a bit better suited to MP, but maybe it's just me). It'll not affect my deciscion to join this game if it still open though.

[ May 30, 2004, 22:13: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

Whew! I am in! At least Graeme is not mad at me for diplomaticaly back stabbing him in our other game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif . Of course he is making me pay by kicking the crap out of me lol.

Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Backstabing and deceiving in-game is perfectly fine, that's part of what this game is about. Cheating and lying outside the game to gain advantage for you in-game avatar, which you are secretly playing under an alias, is not.

[ May 30, 2004, 22:08: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah I know. Just trying to lighten the mood up a little.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wet Wet Wet! Not that playing Atlantis gives bias to my opinion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The normal Version.

Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

It looks like we now have 9 players, so it's probably time to start gathering pretenders. Those people who have signed up can email me their pretenders at:
grdice (at) sasktel dot net

Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

Is it too late to join?

I'd like to play Marignon if I may, and it's not too late.

Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So you believe that you can insult him in public and he has no right to defend himself? This is bull**** Graeme. If you do not want him in your game say so without going into name calling.

Besides, nothing of what went on in that game amounts to cheating acording to the stuff that has been displayed in the relevant threads.

-So he joined a game under a different alias, so what? is that cheating in your book?

-So he got some info out of SB regarding the game in a chat forum? nobody is to blame from that save SB that did not keep his mouth shut, he was not tortured for that info, right?
Is that cheating? If NF got that info out of some other player in the game via an in-game backstab would that have amounted to cheating? You cannot make a distinction between in-game lying & out-of-game lying when diplomacy is most often than not done via e-mail.


I will tell you what _is_ cheating. Back in DomsI I joined a game (Mayhem of magic) in which the host was playing Ulm with full positive scales (all +3 except for drain & neutral weather), a citadel fort & a Cyclops RB pretender proficient in all magics...the guy had ringed the map giving himself a pretender with far far more than 500 design points. YWL was also in that game, same as JT I believe. The only time in all these years of Doms MP playing I have run into a cheater, but we spotted him easily.

That _is_ cheating: manipulating the map, the design points, the hosting or entering the game as multiple nations. Add violating whichever house rules are agreed on.

A couple lies however, is _not_ cheating in a game that allows diplomacy. Whether those lies were in-game or not is irrelevant so long as you do not set in stone that all diplomacy must be conducted via the in-game messaging.

So, drop the name calling. If you do not trust NF, just say so & move on, but do not be surprised if the guy shows up to defend himself.

This public hanging is sickening.

Re: MP Game - Graeme\'s New Game
 

I will join as pythium if there is still an empty slot for me.

edit: changed my mind. I would take emor.

[ June 01, 2004, 17:55: Message edited by: calmon ]