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Kristoffer O January 27th, 2004 07:34 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ceremony:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Pocus:
* I once read somewhere that victory points provinces help spread the dominions, any infos on this?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">"Posessing a province with a victory point in will cause that province to spread dominion like a temple."

-from a post by Johan Osterman
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually, as VP's are intended to be of equal importance to everyone they count as a temple of a god whose dominion strength is 5 (but that matters little - you rarely have many).

[ January 27, 2004, 17:34: Message edited by: Kristoffer O ]

Psitticine January 27th, 2004 07:38 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
Do 2 and 3 VP provinces have more effect? Seems like it might be logical for them to spread Dominion a bit more quickly, but that's a minor point.

Kristoffer O January 27th, 2004 08:04 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
No additional effect.

Pocus January 27th, 2004 09:02 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
Kristoffer, I propose than in the next patch, you add the source code as an added bonus. I need to check a thing or two. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Kjeld January 27th, 2004 10:37 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
AWESOME guide !

I have still a lot of questions http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif For some of them, I have (more or less) educated guesses, but I'll post all of the regardless, so that this thread will hopefully contain ALL about dominion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Is there some kind of "domino" effect with temples ? ie : when you get a high dominion in a province with a temple/god/pretender and all surrounding provinces, will dominion spread in provinces 2 squares away ?

Is there a cap on how high or low a dominion can go ? If you have a (base dominion + nb of temples/5 ) > 10, it seems to me that the the additional points/temples (assuming these extra temples are not build on the dominion's frontiers, thus allowing for spread opportunities) are "wasted" ?

Alos, I am not sure how the blood sacrifices, and the Mictlan "penalty" fit in this picture.

When you perform a blood sacrifice (assuming you are not "forced" to do so to increased dominion, eg. abyssia or vanheim), how does it work ? Is it like priestly preaching (only in the province, with a cap ?), or will it "radiate" dominion like a temple or prophet ? How are the different elements (like the jade knife or whatever this magic item is called, or priest's holy level) factored in ?

With Mictlan, which of the following do not spread dominion : pretender, preaching, temples, prophet ? Only blood sacrifices will do anything ?

Also : how do dominion "killers" (like the artifact statue and the arch devils) work ? Automatic decrease, or only a weighted chance to reduce dominion ?

Thanks in advance for all answers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

ceremony January 27th, 2004 10:48 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kjeld:
Is there some kind of "domino" effect with temples ? ie : when you get a high dominion in a province with a temple/god/pretender and all surrounding provinces, will dominion spread in provinces 2 squares away ?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">As far as I know, yes - if dominion spreads to a province where the current dominion is already maximum, it will spread to another province.

Quote:

Originally posted by Kjeld:
Is there a cap on how high or low a dominion can go ?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I believe dominion is capped at 10.

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Originally posted by Kjeld:
Also, I am not sure how the blood sacrifices, and the Mictlan "penalty" fit in this picture.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The whole Mictlan section of dominion is being written - that part of the dominion chapter is still not done, but I put it aside for some moments because I got tired of writing about dominion!

I will add the VP explanation to the section also.

johan osterman January 27th, 2004 11:53 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kjeld:
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Also : how do dominion "killers" (like the artifact statue and the arch devils) work ? Automatic decrease, or only a weighted chance to reduce dominion ?

Thanks in advance for all answers http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">They work like a priest preaching but for reduction only.

[ January 27, 2004, 21:54: Message edited by: johan osterman ]

HJ January 28th, 2004 07:28 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ceremony:
I believe dominion is capped at 10.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually it's not if you're playing Fires of Faith Marignon. I think it can go to 20 in that case.

General Tacticus January 28th, 2004 07:42 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
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Originally posted by Chris Byler:
Even for Mictlan? That could be very useful as Mictlan normally pays (in blood) for every candle.

Well, their god gets them SOME dominion. But not much.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are you sure ? I haven't noticed any dominion increase from my God. Of course, it's one of the Mictlan-only ones, and it says in their description that they must have blood to spread Dominion, perhaps a generic pretender still spread dominion ?

Coffeedragon January 28th, 2004 08:33 PM

Re: Dominion Spread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ceremony:
I've put together a short primer on dominion and its spread and effects. All the mechanisms you ask about are there:

http://www.maladjustite.com/dominion.pdf

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This is just awesome; canīt wait for the other chapters!

Reading well-written stuff on a classic game is part of the fun of gaming for me. And your contributions I rate 5 out of 5. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


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