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Cainehill May 28th, 2004 04:44 PM

Re: Two Birds with One Stone Suggestion
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tris:
Clams only work when equipped on mages?

Rationale: Magic flows more strongly around a mage, the clam uses this energy to create astral pearls.

Effect: Stops Scouts and other cheap things being able to hold clams. Makes upkeep for dedicated clam holders more expensive, while still keeping clams just as useful for mages to carry around to supply them with gems in the field.

Would help a bit? I think?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wouldn't help with clams, imo. Typically you have a regular fleet of mages all researching, especially with the nations that are prone to clam hoarding.

But if it were done for all gem producing items, it might be an idea - no more black servant or other petty undead being used for fever fetishes, for example.

LintMan May 28th, 2004 08:30 PM

Re: Two Birds with One Stone Suggestion
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cainehill:
But if it were done for all gem producing items, it might be an idea - no more black servant or other petty undead being used for fever fetishes, for example.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You'd still be able to drop them on Revenants and Spectres (cheap 9/10 death gem mage summons) pretty easily, and you'd get at least some value out of them as researchers while they also carry the fetishes.

But I strongly suspect that fever fetishes are going to no longer work on undead in the next patch. (I have no inside info: I just remember seeing a few forum Posts by one of the illwinter guys being surprised that they worked on undead, and implying that was in need of correction.)

Maltrease May 29th, 2004 10:27 PM

Re: Two Birds with One Stone Suggestion
 
Here's another idea for clams. What if we treated them similar to the "seeing" orb in LOTR.

You can have a cheap water thaumaturgy spell ("Seeing Pool"... or something) that gives you an "Astral Window" into every provence that contains a clam. Perhaps it could Last for one turn for each clam found in the provence.

You could still make a strategy out of building clams but you wouldn't be able to do it in secret. I'm not sure how many distance attack spells will effect underwater provences, but this would certainly make the land nations think twice before forging lots of clams.

Vynd May 31st, 2004 04:30 AM

Re: Two Birds with One Stone Suggestion
 
It seems to me that Bayushi's theft spell would make it hard for a non-water nation to hang onto any items, if a water nation decides to target them for large-scale theft.

I like the idea of making Water a more powerful school, and a theft spell of some sort could be neat. But not one that is so easy to cast. How about having an item-theft combat spell instead of a ritual? That'd make it significantly trickier to use well, especially if the mage needs to have an open item slot for whatever he randomly targets.

[ May 31, 2004, 03:31: Message edited by: Vynd ]


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