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Re: Frozen Heart

> That doesn't matter. You still get damage + 2d6OE - 2d6OE even when a spell is armour negating.

Ok, good to know.

> If a mage that costs 100 or more gold can't kill more than that cost in units during the course of the battle once you've done much spell research, then you have a balance problem. A single expensive unit is vulnerable, and has to be able to do more (hopefully much more) damage than its cost in order to be worthwhile.

Not really, for several reasons, such as:

* Mages can do other things besides kill units directly in battle.
* Hopefully, your mages don't die every time they appear in a battle.
* It's just not true that a unit has to do more damage in terms of gold than its own worth to be worthwhile.

Also, that reply doesn't address what I see as the main point of my remark, which was that there was extremely little chance of failure, and practically no way to counter, according to the original observation about Cold Resistance not working. Of course, recent observations refute that claim anyway, making this whole thread a bit silly at this point.

> Spells always hit if they land in a square with a unit. This includes the spells with single target areas of effect like lightning and nether darts.

Ok, but Incinerate and Frozen Heart have Precision 100, which means they always do hit their target square. Lightning has Precision 7, meaning there is a reasonable chance to hit, or sometimes to hit your own units. Huge difference there.

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Re: Frozen Heart

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Graeme Dice said:
I've just ran some tests with frozen heart and Version 2.14. I tried it out against non-lifeless, non-cold immune troops such as ghouls and archers, against lifeless cold immune troops such as longdead, and against caelum troops. It will target longdead, if there are no other suitable targets, but will not damage them. It does not damage Caelum's troops either. It will kill non-cold immune troops, but not always with one hit as they may roll a lucky number for their damage reduction.

And about the Ghouls (or other non-mindless undead) : are they targeted ? Killed ? I'm pretty sure I saw a Bane killed by FH (that was the reason of the thread..), was I wrong ?

Re: Frozen Heart

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PDF said:
And about the Ghouls (or other non-mindless undead) : are they targeted ? Killed ?

Ghouls aren't cold-resistant, so yes, they are targeted and killed.

Re: Frozen Heart

Shouldnt it affect ghouls anyway?

I am somewhat unsure about a ghoul's metabolism, but since they are not amphibians unlike other undead, it suggests that they need to breathe. If you need to breathe, then you should better have a functioning heart as well to pump around the stuff you got out of the air, no?

Re: Frozen Heart

> Spells always hit if they land in a square with a unit. This includes the spells with single target areas of effect like lightning and nether darts.

This is not entirely true. Some spells (mostly projected missiles like blade wind and fire darts) don't. Lightning is an exception to the projected missile rule as bodies attract lightning.