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Nagot Gick Fel November 29th, 2004 08:56 AM

Re: Race Designs & Strategies
 
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PDF said:
The main drawback of a HS is no shield

Not true. I've seen Hell Swords kill their wielders because they turned Berserk too soon. If you're counting on your ID's Breath of Winter to do most of the damage, you've got an issue to deal with here.

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but IMHO it only makes a real difference if you can afford one of the rare really good shields -Aegis/Barrier.

If the other slots are filled with resistance stuff, and you're facing a Botulf Barrage (tm), a Shield of Valor will probably be better either of these.

PDF November 29th, 2004 11:04 AM

Re: Race Designs & Strategies
 
Nagot,
Sure I have less experience than you have, but I recently saw a good number of ID fights and not once did they fail to cast Quickness/BoW before fighting. Sometimes they were killed before (by spells) but the sword wasn't in the equation http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.
Agreed on your remark about Shield of Valor, it should also work against Eth X bow and JMCs.
But I now wonder if a combo Athame + MageBane, or Faithful, or Firebrand isn't better, at least against other SC (not against hordes of chaff dying to BOW alone ..)

Nagot Gick Fel November 29th, 2004 12:27 PM

Re: Race Designs & Strategies
 
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PDF said:
I recently saw a good number of ID fights and not once did they fail to cast Quickness/BoW before fighting.

I have. Although I've yet to see an ID die because of this, I've seen a KOEF bite the dust once because of his own Hell Sword (he failed to cast Phoenix Pyre, which was his main objective). As long as your IDs aren't immune to everything, expect your ennemies to trigger their berserking with AOE or 100 prec damage spells they're not resistant to, or heavy missile fire, or fliers.

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Sometimes they were killed before (by spells) but the sword wasn't in the equation http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

I note the 'before' - so indeed it would have been in the equation if these spells had only damaged them. QED http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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But I now wonder if a combo Athame + MageBane, or Faithful, or Firebrand isn't better, at least against other SC (not against hordes of chaff dying to BOW alone ..)

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