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Marek_Tucan June 12th, 2007 12:42 AM
Re: OOB 024 -- US Army -- M1A2 Abrams
 
There was Abrams recently hit in Iraq by "top attack" RKG-3M grenade. It hit the ammo compartment and ammo went off, two crew members (supposedly unbuttoned at the time) suffered 3rd degree burs.

mr_clark June 12th, 2007 04:59 AM
Re: OOB 024 -- US Army -- M1A2 Abrams
 
well and that might be another problem with the large flat turrets of the M1s. An AT-Grenade is not likely to fall off...

Marek_Tucan June 12th, 2007 09:21 AM
Re: OOB 024 -- US Army -- M1A2 Abrams
 
Quote:
mr_clark said:
well and that might be another problem with the large flat turrets of the M1s. An AT-Grenade is not likely to fall off...
Given that RKG-3 is triggered by impact, it'd trigger all the same.

thatguy96 June 12th, 2007 04:15 PM
Re: OOB 024 -- US Army -- M1A2 Abrams
 
Quote:
Marek_Tucan said:
There was Abrams recently hit in Iraq by "top attack" RKG-3M grenade. It hit the ammo compartment and ammo went off, two crew members (supposedly unbuttoned at the time) suffered 3rd degree burs.
Were the crew supposedly injured in the resulting ammo explosion? For this to happen in the M1, a crewman would have to have been in the process of retrieving a round from the magazine. Otherwise they should be protected by a blast door and the compartment is designed to divert the explosion upward away from the crew.

Marcello June 12th, 2007 05:02 PM
Re: OOB 024 -- US Army -- M1A2 Abrams
 
I suspect that they simply had their heads exposed. The grenade landed on the ammo magazine, triggered the conflagration of the rounds stored, the panel popped as designed and the flames reached them.

Marek_Tucan June 12th, 2007 05:18 PM
Re: OOB 024 -- US Army -- M1A2 Abrams
 
@Marcello: That's also my understanding of the incident.

Quote:

It did not take long for the colonel to discover an important member of that family –Sgt. Shermander Jackson. Jackson, a 24-year-old Brundidge, Ala., resident was serving as a tank commander with 2nd Tank Battalion and was wounded in Fallujah, Iraq, Feb. 7. Jackson’s face, hands and arms were severely burned when a RKG-3 anti-tank grenade hit both of his tank’s 120mm ammunition magazines causing 34 rounds to ignite from the intense heat. The hooded balaclava he wore protected most of his head, leaving a perfect circle of second and third degree burns on his face.
http://www.marforres.usmc.mil/News/2...AMC_mag41.html

thatguy96 June 12th, 2007 07:12 PM
Re: OOB 024 -- US Army -- M1A2 Abrams
 
alright, that makes more sense.

Listy June 14th, 2007 01:09 AM
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Quote:

(IIRC some time ago a Challenger in Iraq was knocked out by a RPG-29 penetrating the lower hull front)
I'll take you up on that one, whose Chally? when? which Op? and what sort of Chally?

And do you have a source on that?

Marek_Tucan June 14th, 2007 01:37 AM
Re: OOB 024 -- US Army -- M1A2 Abrams
 
Apparently Sunday Telegraph, May 13 2007
Article can be found in the 3rd or 4th post in following discussion, I'm too lazy to search Sunday Telegraph's site http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Tank-net discussion regarding the incident

Listy June 14th, 2007 01:28 PM
Re: OOB 024 -- US Army -- M1A2 Abrams
 
The Cr2 doesn't have ERA.
http://www.nao.org.uk/publications/n...-04/030460.pdf
Page 19, on that PDF.

There's no actual source for the RPG hit. However I know several tankers, and I shall ask about.


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