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Wish March 20th, 2007 07:09 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
have them "attack flyers", and in haunted forest they will neglect the manikins for the gorgon.

and frankly, regen on something with so little hitpoints isn't really all that hot.

TirAsleen March 20th, 2007 07:23 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
i am the only one that things its cool to play with a freak with only 1 eye? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif i like he can loose it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif but i played him not for a long time as i quitted to play SC for a while. without healers he is probably a thorn in your eye http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif but hp tanks are good as SC no matte with just 1 yes or 4 arms or no arms, or no legs etc =P

Taqwus March 20th, 2007 08:30 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
Role-playing a one-eyed pretender might be fun, but... beware the inevitable Firbolg Sniper with Vision's Foe and an Eye of Aiming. Base prec 15, +5 net from the eye if memory serves, and Vision's Foe does 17 AN + eyeloss.

Xietor March 20th, 2007 09:28 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
Who said she has so few hps? In her own dom, she has plenty enough to make regen worthwhile, especially as i have 3 regens that stack on her.

Xietor March 20th, 2007 09:29 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
eye shield does wonders against a cyclops, and they are cheap to make and can get them early.

Xietor March 20th, 2007 09:32 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
The more i think about it, i use staff of storms against caleum to keep them from flying. If i was concerned about flying banes, i think i would have someone with a staff of storms with my gorgon, perhaps a faerie queen.

TirAsleen March 20th, 2007 09:49 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
cyclops still useful to expand early and later he can send his army against those eye abusers. i feal more secure with more hp when playing a SC, eyeloss does not affect that. using SC only with high dominion in home domains does not make up for a good SC, as speed is everything in TBS games, sure no time to wait for preaching priests and spreading domains. maybe i do some test battle cyclops vs gorgon with eyeshild will be sure fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Xietor March 20th, 2007 09:52 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
Gorgon is the best pretender for Pangaea. Mid game she kicks *** with const. 4 items, mistform, mirror image. I give her 3 air. mages can search death effectively. That leaves astral, water, fire, as missing gems. But you can typically get mercenary mages that can find these gems, or conquer a castle or 2 that gives you access, or you stumble across enchantress or another independent that can search for these.

Anyway, Pangaea has an abundance of the gems that matter most-nature. And the earth/air/nature gorgon allows for crafting of some very nice items with both high armor, air shield, low encumbrance.

So while some rainbow god may give you quicker access to gems you do not really need, you would be passing up a killer sc, that is unique to only your race in MA. And in late game, when you use the gorgon more in the role of a caster, she can crush opponents with blade wind and petrify spells and not get fatigued. the 3 air i give her, plus the 3 experience she typically has from clearing squares, she has a very good precision. And if a horde of undead make it back to her, she petrifys most of them.

And petrify is, imho, the best ability a pretender can have. whether it is a horror, or anything else, they have to pass that mr check or die before they can attempt to harm her. Flying is also very nice for a sc. Gorgon can use an item at every slot, and she is so much better than a dragon or manticore that it is not funny.

Granted, she cannot be use offensively in enemy dominion with her low hps, but she owns in her own dominion. And even
pretenders with super high hps are vulnerable in enemy dominion, so it is never too wise to use any pretender in enemy dominion anyway.

TirAsleen March 20th, 2007 10:05 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
whats the purpose of this post? gorgon is much better or much more fun? in all cases i have to disagree...

its good vs low magic res troops. those spells you mentioned any SC can use but most of the time at reduced design point cost. good choices for Pangaea as SC are white and black bull as well. no need for items, they can healthemselves, like gorgon have trample and with personal regeneration cast and high dominion they are hp tanks. you can also try cast mistform, quickness, body ethereal and all these things as well, it will cost less. in direct combat vs high res units with high strenght and attack you'd better play these. 30hp is really too fragile for SC. as said, forge aegis shield and use it with a humanoid titan-like pretender with a lot more hp and cheaper magic paths and its the same as gorgon just better if you like powerplay so much.

Nick_K March 20th, 2007 10:24 PM

Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
 
I don't play MP so I couldn't say for sure, but I imagine that an SC designed to kill her could scrag the gorgon even in strong friendly dominion. Such an SC could easily fly into battle, so it would be difficult for her to avoid it.

Of course, if you really want to find out, try playing your gorgon in mp against the guys from this thread who are sure they could destroy her. That'd give an answer as to who's right!


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