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Gandalf Parker August 15th, 2007 04:20 PM

Re: SP Challenge
 
OH WOW!

Here is one that gives early-age Ermor an Eater of the Dead as a god! OUCH. And gives Banes as assigned bodyguards and extra starting units.


#god 1 994 -- Ermor Special: EATER OF THE DEAD
@RANDOM comname COMMANDER
#clearmagic
--#mag_fire 0
--#mag_air 0
--#mag_earth 0
#mag_astral 9
#mag_death 9
--#mag_nature 0
#additem "Bane Venom Charm" -- misc slot
#additem "Amulet of Antimagic" -- misc slot
#dominionstr 1 10
#scale_chaos 1 1
#scale_lazy 1 -1
#scale_cold 1 1
#scale_death 1 3
#scale_unluck 1 -2
#scale_unmagic 1 -3
-- Unpredictable prelude of things to come...

#bodyguards 10 185 -- Bane
#units 20 185 -- Bane
#units 20 185 -- Bane

NTJedi August 15th, 2007 05:23 PM

Re: SP Challenge
 
Quote:

Gandalf Parker said:
OH WOW!

Here is one that gives early-age Ermor an Eater of the Dead as a god! OUCH. And gives Banes as assigned bodyguards and extra starting units.


#god 1 994 -- Ermor Special: EATER OF THE DEAD
@RANDOM comname COMMANDER
#clearmagic
--#mag_fire 0
--#mag_air 0
--#mag_earth 0
#mag_astral 9
#mag_death 9
--#mag_nature 0
#additem "Bane Venom Charm" -- misc slot
#additem "Amulet of Antimagic" -- misc slot
#dominionstr 1 10
#scale_chaos 1 1
#scale_lazy 1 -1
#scale_cold 1 1
#scale_death 1 3
#scale_unluck 1 -2
#scale_unmagic 1 -3
-- Unpredictable prelude of things to come...

#bodyguards 10 185 -- Bane
#units 20 185 -- Bane
#units 20 185 -- Bane

Unfortunately from my testing assigned bodyguards do not remain when given to an AI opponent. The AI has been known to move any units into attacking offensive units and even give them to other commanders.
Are you sure the Eater of the Dead pretender won't turn independent after reaching it's final size?

Gandalf Parker August 15th, 2007 05:28 PM

Re: SP Challenge
 
I dont know, but either way it should be fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Maybe not a challenge, but interesting at least.

NTJedi August 15th, 2007 05:33 PM

Re: SP Challenge
 
Quote:

SelfishGene said:
So is there some way to build a "single player" map with pre-set AI gods? I'd like to do this for a contest i was thinking about...

Gandalf provides good examples, but the map edit commands do not limit the boundaries of points being spent. Thus if you wish to create a super powerful AI it won't suffer the cheating penalty because it's an AI opponent.
On the map I created I provided the AI opponent with a vampire queen fully equipped on items with level 9 fire, level 9 earth, level 9 air and level 7 nature plus a growth scale of 3.
Be careful not to provide the AI with too powerful of a starting dominion otherwise it might swallow allied neighbors... unless that's your intention.
Be careful on selecting large sized pretenders for the AI as it will send most of them to the death match arena.
AI opponents usually need a growth scale to help prevent starving armies, old age afflictions, and gold income issues.

Gandalf Parker August 15th, 2007 05:36 PM

Re: SP Challenge
 
I forget that about the AI not needing cheat protection off, because sometimes I play with these gods. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. You can also use these commands to build a god you otherwise couldnt have (unit type, starting equipment, etc) and play it yourself if you want.

I guess I should have said that if you want to play this god, then be sure to turn off cheat checks.

WraithLord August 15th, 2007 05:58 PM

Re: SP Challenge
 
NTJedi, your map sounds awesome. I would really love to try a game with it.

There was this map for dom-2 that was modded to be extremely challenging for SP. what was its name?- Orania nasty or war or something. It was quite a fun map. Maybe there are also such maps for dom-III as well?

WraithLord August 15th, 2007 06:06 PM

Re: SP Challenge
 
Gandalf, your examples look great. I think it could be perfect if it was possible to conveniently stuff some of them into a mod so that they could be easily used. Or maybe that's close to what Ironhawk's mod is doing.

Gandalf Parker August 15th, 2007 07:11 PM

Re: SP Challenge
 
You mean put them in a map? Im not sure that a mod would do the same thing. But I have been asking for a mod that is based on the AIs abilities while working around its disabilities. So far there hasnt been much of a nibble in that area.

Hey NTJedi:
I played with the Eater of the Dead god as my god. It did go rogue. At first it sieged its own castle but eventually it wandered off. I still can follow behind with scouts and claim the empty provinces that it leaves in its wake.

Im not sure if its still my god or not. I dont automatically get the provinces it clears. But I dont have "call god" so its not considered dead to me. It will be interesting to see what happens if it dies. Maybe I can catch up and watch some battles to see if it still gets things like dominion bonuses.

NTJedi August 15th, 2007 07:27 PM

Re: SP Challenge
 
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WraithLord said:
NTJedi, your map sounds awesome. I would really love to try a game with it.



My maps from any game are typically viewed as difficult by the average gamer. I recommend not reading the .map file to add more mystery and surprise.

The game must use the nations listed below:
A) Vanheim (early age) (human)
B) Tien Chi (early age) (AI opponent)
C) Argatha (early age) (AI opponent)
D) Yomi (early age) (AI opponent)
E) Helheim (early age) (AI opponent)
F) Ry'leh (early age) (AI opponent)
G) Niefielheim giants (early age) (AI opponent)
Here's where the SP map can be downloaded:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5hye3y0jvzj

Attached to this post is a screenshot from the map.

Edratman August 16th, 2007 07:26 AM

Re: SP Challenge
 
I tried Gandalf's suggestion last night. It was really easy to insert a god in a map. Took me about 5/10 minutes to create a single god. This is a pretty good innovation. You need Edi's data base to get unit numbers, but after that just copy the format Gandalf shows.

It is good to learn from earlier in the thread that when you create a AI god like this you don't have to stay within the game points limits.


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