Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

I think bodyguards for SC's is asking for trouble. If the bodyguards get killed, the SC might rout.

I'm can't say this for sure, but I have sent small quantities of troops with a thug (not as bodyguards)and watched my thug retreat once or twice when these troops were slain. I discontinued the practice.

Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

Yep, if you lose 75% of your men on the battlefield, the rest will run away, regardless of morale. So a morale-30 SC alone will never rout, but if he has bodyguards he will once they're slain.

Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

Army will rout when it has taken 75% in casualties, or when battle duration ends. See page 80 of the manual.

One thug and bodyguards may cause rout, but some bodyguards with several thugs could work. Say, Jotun Herses and 7 bodyguard giants. Even if all the bodyguards die/rout, it's just 70% casualties and the herses keep fighting until one of them dies.

EDIT: two bodyguards and one thug also works

Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

Could someone please define THUG vs. SC (I'm assuming SC means Single Combat)?

Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

SC is super combatant.

the simplipied version is SCs can function alone and take out entire armies.

Thugs are like SCs but weaker and they must have the support of an army (or a group of other thugs) to win. They often support armies or groups raid poorly defended provinces.

the line between SCs and thugs is a bit blurry.

Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

I played a SP game where Pythium cast Wild Hunt, and I duly got my mage/priests hunted down. The bodyguard tended to be a liability as if (when) they routed the hero also routed and died. The thugs/SCs alone tended to defeat the pack of beasties.

Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

OK, I used a Golam as an SC for three reasons: 1. They have good HP. 2. They are strong, so they do a lot of damage in combat. 3. They never run away from a battle.

Equipped with Aegis shield, Obsidian armor, Astral Skullcap, Druid Boots, Antimagic Amulet, Lucky Combat Amulet, and Frost Bane sword. Very effective. He took five provinces out by himself and died trying to storm a city on his own. It was a good experiment. I think the weak spot was his helmet. I guess you need to have some really high levels to build really good helmets.

Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

The starshine skullcap is pretty much the premier helm outside of the lightning spamming one for SC's since it gives MR. (very useful for SC's in Multi) You pretty much learned your lesson I think on why you first attempt failed. also I should point out lizard provinces are thug killers. They can also take out SC chassis without luck + ethereal very handily because of their high dmg attacks as well as curse. Lastly you should look into damage shield items such as the every popular charcoal shield and the slightly less effective Breath of winter and bone armor one.

Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

Not only do they have high damage attacks, but those lizards have 2 attacks each, which means they almost always hit once they start to swarm.

Jazzepi

Re: Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too ea
 

Sounds like your Golem took damage and you did not take the time to regen it in a lab. so when you attacked the city your hits were low. the one weakness a golem has is that it does not regenerate. You have to be in a province with a lab in it to give it its health back.