Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

Very convincing testing and answer.

As far as I can tell, you have run down 2 seperate bugs.

The Scale Bug and "Ghost Connections" to provinces all over the map.

Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

Heh. Wow. I go away for less than a day and it's (practically) all done! Very cool.

Tip my hat to vfb and Lord_Bob for tracking this down. I got the ball rolling by being able to reliably reproduce the scale bug--but there's no way in *hell* I would have been able to figure out what vfb just did!

(Heck, the first time I read his post I was going "Uh, what? Invisible neighbours? Is this a spoof on all the sudden excitement about the scalebug, like that spoof of the Scorched Earth thread a while back?" *reads on* "Nope, it's serious. Wow, that's...bizarre..." : )

Congratulations!

Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

I refuse to accept your modesty vfb. I concur with Sir_Dr_D and acknowledge your genius .

I think you might even be eligible for a HOF promotion up to "VFB". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif


I'll still send my 9 province map tonight.

Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

Here are the files.

Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

Oops. Couldn't send all three files at once I just found out. Here is the MAP file.

Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

Wow, the people on this board are hardcore. No wonder I never win my games!

Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

Here is the save file

Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

Thanks! I started the game on this map and immediately lost all my good scales. So I made a stealth prophet and sent her to province #7 (159) to preach. Province 159 did not have friendly dominion. As soon as I got one candle in #159, all my order (and some productivity and growth) came back in the capital. Two turns later and the scales were back at full strength.

Edit: I started a new game because I didn't have the save. I'll have a look at that now.

Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

The Monkey King will erect a massive statue of vfb made from astral pearls!

Really, I think your thread should be stickied!

Sticky this thread!

Re: The scale bug is caused by province neighbors
 

Edratman, I looked at your save game. You had positive dom in 159 and 113. Probably the high initial dom set up in the map caused early spread. So, I killed your prophet, researched const6, and sent a bunch of stone idols to province 159 (neighbor #7, the trigger province) and province 113 (neighbor #1, the leech province). Dom hit zero first in 159, but I didn't see much of a scales change, since there's only one possible scales decrease for neighbor #7. When Dom hit zero in 113, all the positive scales vanished in the capital.

I then removed the idols from 159 and parked them in 113. Scales then started to recover in the capital. It took about 5 turns for them to get back to full strength, but they did recover and stay there.

Thanks for posting the test case!