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vfb January 26th, 2008 09:05 PM

Re: Assassin strategies?
 
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mathusalem said:
LA Ulm as mage / assassin too : Astral, Blood, Stealth +25

No, they are spies, not assassins.

Maraxus January 27th, 2008 07:23 AM

Re: Assassin strategies?
 
I just read in the bug thread that someone gave a vampire count a black heart. I totally like this idea, first you have a nice assasin and then, if your opponent manages to kill that assasin on your terrain, you still have the unit and he has a chest wound (that is probably useless to him, unless you accidently attacked a stealthy commander)

Yrkoon January 27th, 2008 07:51 AM

Re: Assassin strategies?
 
It is definitely annoying when a commander gets a cursed item from another dead commander, like the black heart or an eye of aiming. And it makes no sense either - unless these items have a mind of their own, they are not going to jump out of the dead body and into the eye socket or the chest of the new carrier. We are not in an Alien movie ...

Saulot January 27th, 2008 09:04 AM

Re: Assassin strategies?
 
Well,... if you consider Void summons, Doom Horrors, and Daemon Lords, the world of Dominions is certainly as (if not more so) dark and horror-filled as the avp one... But to consider your point, I believe the argument for cursed items is that part of their enchantment is that you're compelled to pick them up.

*shrugs* This makes as much sense as any other theory regarding magical items.

zlefin January 27th, 2008 10:01 AM

Re: Assassin strategies?
 
One thing i mean to try some time, if you're using a bless strategy, is putting shroud of the battle saint on assassins.
shroud is quite inexpensive as items go, and if you have a good dual bless, it should up the assassin's killing quite a bit.

Agrajag January 27th, 2008 12:24 PM

Re: Assassin strategies?
 
With the eyes you can maybe understand that they can insert themselves into the mage's eye without his consent, but the hearts' description explicitly says that the chest wound is the result of "crude surgery"
and not the heart implanting itself into the "victim", so unless the heart is also a surgeon and has appendages and at least some knives and a sewing kit, it's harder to imagine it flying into your chest.

EDIT: manually inserted a linebreak to improve readability since the thread has been stretched by an unruly link.

sector24 January 27th, 2008 01:57 PM

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Sorry about that, should be fixed now. I had to use the awful search function to find the post, and it adds tons of extraneous junk onto the URL.

Dectilon January 27th, 2008 03:08 PM

Re: Assassin strategies?
 
How about a team of stealthy mages casting horror mark? : D

It might not be immediatly effective, but eventually that god (or whatever) is toast!

Foodstamp January 27th, 2008 04:43 PM

Re: Assassin strategies?
 
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Agrajag said:
With the eyes you can maybe understand that they can insert themselves into the mage's eye without his consent, but the hearts' description explicitly says that the chest wound is the result of "crude surgery"
and not the heart implanting itself into the "victim", so unless the heart is also a surgeon and has appendages and at least some knives and a sewing kit, it's harder to imagine it flying into your chest.

EDIT: manually inserted a linebreak to improve readability since the thread has been stretched by an unruly link.

Umm, Sombre has already covered how such things happen. A wizard did it.

Taqwus January 28th, 2008 05:57 PM

Re: Assassin strategies?
 
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Dectilon said:
How about a team of stealthy mages casting horror mark? : D

It might not be immediatly effective, but eventually that god (or whatever) is toast!

Not particularly efficient, but perhaps an option for R'lyeh -- both through Star Children, and through Dreams of R'lyeh (hmmm, can one do a Returning from the dream? Repeated 'dreams + horror mark (x4) + returning' would be expensive, but it would also be irritating, and deliciously evil).


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