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Re: New Finnish OOB

check stats for NLAW from GB OOB and MBT LAW. The same weapon, however not a TA-ATGM in a true sense. So acc. 80 is bull.

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pdoktar, I've copied the weapon stat for NLAW from Swedish OOB and also rechecked with GB OOB, and yes, it's classed as TA-ATGM (weapon type 20) with accuracy of 80 and penetration of 150 (!!!!). I would also question if that penetration value would be a "bit" over the top...

Also Strv122 original designation was Leo 2A5S, and I used that data (Strv 122) for the "Leo 2A5FIN"... I am quite sure we wouldn't call it Strv 122 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Zip

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We've modified the penetration of the NLAW / MBT LAW in the next patch. It was put in years ago when nice little "details" about it's potential capabilities were not available.

It will have 100 pen in the next patch with a WH size of 8 not 5.

And yes, it's already been put into our Finn OOB

Don

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pdoktar said:
check stats for NLAW from GB OOB and MBT LAW. The same weapon, however not a TA-ATGM in a true sense. <snip>

Oh really ? Not a "true " TA ??

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http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mbt_law/
MODES OF OPERATION
The soldier selects top attack mode to engage tanks and armoured vehicles in order to strike the least armoured area on the vehicle's roof. In the Overfly Top Attack (OTA) mode, the missile flies at about 1m above the line of sight. The missile's sensor initiates the warhead above the roof of the target.

The soldier can select the Direct Attack (DA) mode to engage light vehicles, buildings and bunkers. In the Direct Attack (DA) mode the missile flies directly along the line of sight towards the target. The missile fuse system is disconnected and the warhead detonates upon impact, after a short delay.

That certainly sounds like "top attack " capable to me.

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pdoktar said:

So acc. 80 is bull.

Well then, do tell what you think it should be and why.

Don

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New Finnish OOB

Perkele!

Pretty ambitious stuff there, Zip! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

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Not a true TA-ATGM. Top Attack yes, but ATGM.. no? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mbt_law/

"In the Predicted Line of Sight (PLOS) mode, the gunner tracks the target for three seconds and the missile's guidance electronics makes a record of the gunner's movement as he aims and computes the flight path to the predicted position of the target."

So we have a ballistic computer, but the projectile itself can not correct its flight path during flight, so no ATGM there although it is referred as a missile.

Given that the PzF3 IT-600 should have a ballistic computer and laser rangefinder, giving it acc. 5 and MBT LAW acc. 80 is misleading.

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pdoktar said:
Not a true TA-ATGM. Top Attack yes, but ATGM.. no? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Up until about 6 hours ago if you wanted to model a TA weapon there was one and only one way to do that and that was with WC 20. As of this morning there is now a WC23 for NON ATGM TA weapons

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pdoktar said:
Given that the PzF3 IT-600 should have a ballistic computer and laser rangefinder, giving it acc. 5 and MBT LAW acc. 80 is misleading.

Did you not notice that the PzF3 IT-600 has a laser rangefinder rating ? The acc. 80 of the MBT LAW is under review

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DRG said:
Up until about 6 hours ago if you wanted to model a TA weapon there was one and only one way to do that and that was with WC 20. As of this morning there is now a WC23 for NON ATGM TA weapons

Triple Hooray and Cheers! Thank You for your efforts to make the game even better!

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Great work. Thanks!!

And I did not notice the rangefinder value but at least WG unit 207 has it, but it is listed as 5. Does RF 5 represent a laser rangefinder in LAW-type weapons?