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Shovah32 March 21st, 2008 05:21 PM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
I love these guys too. I remember quite a while back I tried them in multiplayer with a W9 dragon. Got rushed by Lanka incredibly early and was pushed back(with E9N9, even dual shortswords couldn't punch through him, and the berserk let him occasionally hit back). And I still managed to hold out and beat him. The incredibly tough and deadly warriors, combined with Tien Chis versatile battle magic really is a powerful combination.

Now I want to go play with these guys again.

chrispedersen March 22nd, 2008 01:38 AM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
I believe EA Tien to be the best in the game.

I typically choose a double or triple bless. I like F9 - to allow them to hit things only hit by magic - and then it depends on mood.

N9 - gives a subtle benefit that it prevents your celestial masters from old aging.

W9 or A9 if I go fountain.

Dom 5 is all I bother with usually, even tho its capital only. Archers are excellent - sufficiently good that you can carry your early provinces.

River demons stacking off your bless mid to late - flexible magic, .. whats not to like.

Renojustin March 22nd, 2008 01:54 AM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
Quote:

BesucherXia said:
The 5 element of Chinese are:
Metal,
Wood,
Water,
Fire, and
Earth

IMO air is never supposed to be an important element for Chinese.



Of course, you're right... I just always remembered the Metal and Wood being in there on top of the normal ones... you'd think those would have covered Earth. Oh well, nice correction!

Endoperez March 22nd, 2008 07:48 AM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
Quote:

chrispedersen said:
N9 - gives a subtle benefit that it prevents your celestial masters from old aging.

What do you mean by this? Keeping your diseased Celestial Masters going from battle to battle and regenerating the lost hitpoints, casting Gift of Health or what? Because I don't remember Nature magic of pretender affecting sacred units' old age in any way.

Shovah32 March 22nd, 2008 02:21 PM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
Endo, with a nature bless a shroud of the battle said(5 pearls) will give them regeneration and stop them from dying of disease quickly.
I wouldn't take N9, N4 would be plenty. N9 is just sort of begging the enemy to cast earthquake/rain of stones on you.

Endoperez March 22nd, 2008 02:36 PM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
Quote:

Shovah32 said:
Endo, with a nature bless a shroud of the battle said(5 pearls) will give them regeneration and stop them from dying of disease quickly.
I wouldn't take N9, N4 would be plenty. N9 is just sort of begging the enemy to cast earthquake/rain of stones on you.

Oh, right. I forgot that Shroud also gives the bless effect outside of battle.

Jazzepi March 22nd, 2008 03:02 PM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
A9 bless is awful.

Give the warriors W9S9, which I believe is much easier to get than A9W9 anyways.

They'll tear through almost anything without losses. Lots, and lots of archers can be scary, though.

Jazzepi

Shovah32 March 22nd, 2008 05:08 PM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
I think he meant astral 9, because he mentioned doing it with a "fountain", which I'm assuming is the Oracle.

chrispedersen March 22nd, 2008 08:10 PM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
Yeah, I meant astral - never get used to saying s9.
Dittos on the N9. I usually hire one celestial master with the rest the master of elements ntil year 3 or so, when water gem production kicks in.

I don't know if its a function of pretender or scales - but my first celestial master usually is not old - and if old.. never develops disease.

And yes, I equip with battle shrouds.

moderation March 23rd, 2008 01:28 AM

Re: Warriors of the Five Elements.
 
Quote:

Jazzepi said:
A9 bless is awful.

Give the warriors W9S9, which I believe is much easier to get than A9W9 anyways.

They'll tear through almost anything without losses. Lots, and lots of archers can be scary, though.

Jazzepi

Hmm, giving up F9 for S9 seems nice since you get Twist Fate and Astral, which seems a lot more powerful than fire, but does trading away the magical fire damage and attack rating bonus slow you down?


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