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cleveland July 13th, 2008 10:26 PM

Re: Suggestion for new Oceana units
 
Pod of Orca http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Foodstamp July 13th, 2008 11:20 PM

Re: Suggestion for new Oceana units
 
Make it so http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

HoneyBadger July 14th, 2008 02:16 AM

Re: Suggestion for new Oceana units
 
For Scylla, if she's to be a unique monster, might I refer you to the movie "Deep Rising"?. Yes it's awful, in so many ways, but it's fun in it's awfulness, and the monster-while one of the worse CGI incarnations out there-had enough uniqueness to it to render it interesting fodder for artistic salvage. For that matter, since I'm on an ammonite kick, how about an ammonite Great Kraken who's arms are actually heads?

And what about Charybdis, the living vortex?

TheMenacer July 14th, 2008 02:27 AM

Re: Suggestion for new Oceana units
 
For a bevy of interesting summons, might I suggest drawing inspiration from the drawings of sea life that'd show up on old maps and charts as decoration? You know the ones I'm talking about, back when a lobster was depicted as having a mammal head and two jets of water shooting out of its face and a whale was pretty much exactly the same thing but without claws. That stuff was pretty weird and would really fit the bill for an aquatic nation based on semi-medieval european notion of what the ocean was like.

HoneyBadger July 14th, 2008 02:36 AM

Here there be dragons!
 
Yeah,TheMenacer, that's a great idea! Some of those creatures depicted were really fun.

Here's what Wiki has to say on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_be...ragons_on_maps

Tifone July 14th, 2008 03:34 AM

Re: Here there be dragons!
 
I've got an idea! I live in Florence, now I go down to Sicilia to find those goddamn Scylla and Carybdis, stun the with punches and bring them here so we can do those goddamn sprites http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

Wrana July 14th, 2008 03:41 AM

Re: Here there be dragons!
 
TheMenacer's idea is good. Unfortunately I have no information on hand and don't trust Wikipedia much.
Quote:

Endoperez:
Hidden in Snow: frozen corpses that have survived in ancient glaciers
Hidden in Sand: corpses mummified and protected by dry sand of ancient deserts
Reawaken Fossil: LA Abysia national spell to reanimate "the fossilized giants once defeated by fire in the valley of Megiddo"
1+2 = Hidden Under the Waves?
Water/Nature Aboleth hybrid crossbreed monsters with various terrifying abilities?
Water/Death ammonite monsters with thick shells and lots of tentacles? (I suggest

I should humbly point out that while glaciers and desert sands actually do allow a good preservation of corpses, be they human or otherwise, sea waters don't! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif They have just too good conditions for scavengers and decay-inducing bacteria. So there are almost no legends about dead in sea unless they are ghosts - and those are already in the game, actually in several incarnations.
Furthermore, Deep Ones and similar creatures are already in Atlantis army list (and some in R'lyeh). So it wouldn't be in style to include them in Oceania - they won't fit thematically. Triton shell chariots, on the other hand, were depicted often.. Speaking of which, maybe triton shell blowers should be added as well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Some living corals/coral statues would be better - and probably fit theme more. Orcas would be cool as well - but it would be difficult to make them clearly different from sharks in game terms I suspect... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif I agree to "nature is pissed" concept for this nation, by the way.
Considering Scylla & Charybdis - they would be cool, but they are unique, so wouldn't probably do too much to add to general Oceania might.

HoneyBadger July 14th, 2008 04:26 AM

Re: Here there be dragons!
 
I don't trust Wiki any more than any other extremely large body of information that any yahoo can edit as they see fit (history, anyone?). Or for that matter, anything I read or see on television or the Internet, or with my own eyes (I happen to be a fan of Criss Angel). But it remains an extremely large body of information. It's not something you necessarily need to trust. It's there to use, and can at the very least serve as a stepping-stone to greater knowledge and awareness.

Reality is what you decide it is, or what you're forced to accept as real. If you refuse to accept that your human experience conform to nothing other than scientifically provable facts, then why bother playing video games or reading books or using your imagination at all, when you could be cuddling up with a calculator?

Kristoffer O July 14th, 2008 08:21 AM

Re: Here there be dragons!
 
> Scylla - from the same Homer as Sirens, kind of an amphibious hydra. Aside from being hella cool, this could give Oceana a good poison immune amphibian to leverage one of the few things than can cast well - poison. "Scylla was a horribly grotesque sea monster, with six long necks equipped with grisly heads, each of which contained three rows of sharp teeth. Her body consisted of twelve canine legs and a cat's tail."

Actually Scylla is already in the game, as the drakaina pretender. I used the slightly more bizzare version of her with a female torso, fish tail with six baying dogs at the waist.

But the capricorns might need some leverage. I'm quite fond of half-fish.

Wrana July 14th, 2008 12:06 PM

Re: Here there be dragons!
 
Yes! I knew it seemed familiar! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
Msy I also humbly suggest something like real-world amphibious fishes? (say, latimeria-like?) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Maybe even with triton/mermen riders?


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