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konming July 19th, 2008 10:06 PM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
Of course you can use items to make it fire immune, cannot you?

JimMorrison July 19th, 2008 10:12 PM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
Vulnerabilities and resistances are cumulative.

So if a unit is 100% Fire vulnerable, it is in fact -100% Fire resistant, meaning that if you add 100% FR from items, then he is at normal damage.

konming July 19th, 2008 10:56 PM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
Yes, buring perls+dragon helm+fire plate = 150% FR and only requires const 2 and 15 fire gems (less with hammer). Adding a fire band or a charcoal shield (const 4, 5F5E each) provides the remaining 50% FR. See, it is not that hard to make a Mandaha fire immune.

konming July 20th, 2008 12:14 AM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
Now Lanka does not have F or E mages, and needs bless for their sacred troops. So forging such gear is quite difficult for Lanka.

Gregstrom August 19th, 2008 04:42 AM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
As a footnote:

The AI is apparently reluctant to cast Solar Brilliance against Mandaha darkness, even when scripted

I can see a few options:

1 - The AI has a weakness in this area.
2 - Solar Brilliance and Darkness are actually mutually exclusive in the sense that once one has been cast the other cannot ba cast over it.
3 - Mandaha Darkness is special in that (as per the unit flavour text) you specifically cannot cast Solar Brilliance against it.

Any thoughts?

Jazzepi August 19th, 2008 09:21 AM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
I know for a fact that solar brilliance does indeed cancel out darkness. I've had it cast against me, and seen it work. That said, this darkness was the kind cast by Ermor.

Jazzepi

AreaOfEffect August 19th, 2008 10:19 AM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
It is possible that the AI didn't consider the opposing army to be a threat. In which case the AI prefers not to use gems in battle. Was the force you were fighting much smaller then the army you brought?

Psycho August 19th, 2008 10:33 AM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
I know for a fact that 2 is not true. I've been casting solar brilliance over darkness when fighting Ctis as Kailasa. I don't know about mandahas though. You could try forbidden light if that's in your reach - it autocasts solar brilliance. Or you could try to surprise him with skelly spam - forge some skullfaces, boots of quickness and some reinvig. items and give them to commanders (best undead ones, no additional enc.).

Kristoffer O August 19th, 2008 12:51 PM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
Green lions have unresistable AoE dmg. Might shoot a bit off target during darkness, but should hurt the demons good..
With W/F they are a bit difficult to get, but as TC you should have access to them.

Ironhawk August 19th, 2008 01:07 PM

Re: Counter to Darkness?
 
I dont think #3 is valid. I've never seen an instance where a battlefield enchantment was not cast due to the presence of another BE (which was not the exact same enchantment).


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