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Snoddasmannen August 27th, 2008 10:53 AM

Re: Spell database - Web interface
 
Thanks Jarkko!

The original database is missing descriptions for some of the spell types (including fires from afar and charm), and thanks to how I joined stuff in my sql query those spells were simply dropped.

Rather than fix all the missing types of spells, I simply changed the query, so all spells should be there now - but some with empty spell types. Some day I will come up with names for them instead :)

Dedas August 28th, 2008 08:57 AM

Re: Spell database - Web interface
 
Thanks Snoddas for a very nice tool! (or should I say "tack"?)

Oh, and don't worry about not supporting IE as there is no good reason (laziness not counting) to run that browser anyway. :)

Snoddasmannen October 5th, 2008 04:58 AM

Re: Spell database - Web interface
 
Varsågod Dedas :)

I've now added forgeable items as well. I made a real mess of the xml/xslt imo, but at least it seems to work. Rather than spend a day redesigning the whole thing in a sane way I spent two hours hacking stuff in. But it's a suitable thing to do with a slight hangover :)

I also changed around some stuff. Made the colors a bit less depressing in browsers without support for nth-of-type() for one.

I guess fixing up national spells is the next thing to do. And still the dream of being able to hotlink the spells to some page where people can comment and describe them ... Anybody got ideas for that one?

Sombre October 6th, 2008 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedas (Post 634833)
Thanks Snoddas for a very nice tool! (or should I say "tack"?)

Oh, and don't worry about not supporting IE as there is no good reason (laziness not counting) to run that browser anyway. :)

I surmise from your avatar that you may be slightly biased. I would also think the fact it's the most popular web browser by far would be a good reason to support it.

Ballbarian October 6th, 2008 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 643248)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedas (Post 634833)
Thanks Snoddas for a very nice tool! (or should I say "tack"?)

Oh, and don't worry about not supporting IE as there is no good reason (laziness not counting) to run that browser anyway. :)

I surmise from your avatar that you may be slightly biased. I would also think the fact it's the most popular web browser by far would be a good reason to support it.

"most popular" might be misleading. "most used" would probably fit better. I have found that many users simply use IE because it is what came installed on their Windows PC. I myself used IE for years before discovering FF. :)

llamabeast October 6th, 2008 11:29 AM

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Yes, I can't think that very many people use IE by considered choice. It's simply a default for most people.

Snoddasmannen October 18th, 2008 02:12 AM

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Database updated according to the 3.20 update by DrPraetorious. Have fun! :)

Jarkko October 18th, 2008 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 643316)
Yes, I can't think that very many people use IE by considered choice. It's simply a default for most people.

Generalisation for the win, eh?

I have IE, FF and Lynx installed. I've used Lynx as far as I can remember, and nothing is as fast as that one when reading forums etc, no nasty popups, no cookies, just a feeling of ultimate speed and ease of use; sadly for example this new Shrapnel forum is incomprehensible in Lynx :(

When Lynx is not a possibility I use IE. IE7, despite what many claim, is easy to use and fast. FF has a crap load of all sorts of options and whatnots, and my brain starts to hurt when I try to figure it out; hence I use FF only when Lynx or IE7 are not possible (like using the spell database).



Btw, thanks again for this excellent tool :) Thumbs up!

JimMorrison October 18th, 2008 04:24 PM

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I don't think that your example actually goes against his point - that given a clear choice, IE is very rarely #1 pick for anyone. But is in fact mostly used by people who haven't explored other options yet.

Snoddasmannen October 19th, 2008 03:05 AM

Re: Spell database - Web interface
 
Good thing I started this thread so that finally there is a place on the internet where people can discuss amongst themselves which browser is the best one :)

Going off-topic for a bit, I gave up about two hours of solid dom3 gaming time (those pesky Eriu will have to wait) to add distinctions between national and non-national spells on the site. Right now, there's just a red or white circle to indicate whether they are national or not (well they are also actually sorted by which nation they belong to). I intend to replace those images with the corresponding in-game national flags, but only if somebody can tell me where to find them :)

An interesting side-effect of sorting things by the national flag in the database is that the site searching spells are just below the proper nationals. I'm sure our friends in Lund are more than happy to explain why :P


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