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llamabeast August 15th, 2008 03:27 PM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
HoneyBadger - no, Dark Vines seem immune.

AreaOfEffect August 15th, 2008 04:19 PM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
If your having moral issues, avoid the H2 priests. Instead just keep getting marsh masters and research Thamaturgy 4. Touch of Madness is the way to never rout ever again. You also get a bunch of useful spells along the way.

llamabeast August 15th, 2008 06:02 PM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
The elite slave guys are great, by the way. Recruit them in preference to the Swamp Guards.

Nikelaos August 15th, 2008 08:07 PM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
the elite slave guys are definately a better choice for melee the lack of a sheild a a little bit of a problem but shouldn't cause too much trouble.

Also i find C'tis could benefit from a defencive strategy, a combinastion of cheap and easily massed troops (if somewhat inferior to that of other nations) miasmas natural defence and skelly spamming make it a dificult defence to break through. Any dedicated force can be halted easily and weakened significantly with miasmas disease allowing a counter attack. For the offencive push C'tis has a number of pretty strong national summons such as the sacred sirrush(conj 5), it has 3 attacks and i find it is a good candidate for a nature bless.

i'm going to test some other strategies, don't ask what strategies because i'm not sure yet lol, it will come too me when i start playing hopefully.

ano August 15th, 2008 08:57 PM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
I think that Sirrush is a rather poor summon, probably one iof the poorest national summons at all because for 10(!) pearls you buy a mediocre fat sacred warrior. Taking on account the facts that pearls are very valuable and that they have lots of other uses, I'd rather forge 3(or 2 without a hammer) luck\antimagic amulets for my 12 gem banelords.

Ming August 15th, 2008 10:50 PM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ano (Post 631599)
I think that Sirrush is a rather poor summon, probably one iof the poorest national summons at all because for 10(!) pearls you buy a mediocre fat sacred warrior. Taking on account the facts that pearls are very valuable and that they have lots of other uses, I'd rather forge 3(or 2 without a hammer) luck\antimagic amulets for my 12 gem banelords.

Surely it depends on the situation? Please correct me if I am wrong but Sirrush is size 6 (immune to trampling), not undead, has three attacks to Bane Lord's one, more HP, much faster on the battlemap, and you have cheap mages that can cast luck anyway. I would have thought they serve different purposes.

HoneyBadger August 16th, 2008 01:02 AM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
Good to hear that Dark Vines are immune-thanks Llamabeast!

JimMorrison August 16th, 2008 01:11 AM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ano (Post 631599)
I think that Sirrush is a rather poor summon, probably one iof the poorest national summons at all because for 10(!) pearls you buy a mediocre fat sacred warrior. Taking on account the facts that pearls are very valuable and that they have lots of other uses, I'd rather forge 3(or 2 without a hammer) luck\antimagic amulets for my 12 gem banelords.


Some people seem to like a strong bless for the Oiorpata. I'd imagine that situationally, a 9W/?N that I've seen mentioned a few times, would make Sirrush pretty gnarly. Especially if you have a Conjuration bonus site. Even then, just some regen and maybe a shaman to cast Body Ethereal on them, and you've got some really durable anchors for your line.

I wonder if you get anything but misc slots with a GoR. :p

ano August 16th, 2008 07:23 AM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
Quote:

Some people seem to like a strong bless for the Oiorpata. I'd imagine that situationally, a 9W/?N that I've seen mentioned a few times, would make Sirrush pretty gnarly. Especially if you have a Conjuration bonus site. Even then, just some regen and maybe a shaman to cast Body Ethereal on them, and you've got some really durable anchors for your line.
It's viable but believe me, even with Conjuration bonus site you may find much better way to use your pearls.
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I wonder if you get anything but misc slots with a GoR.
Of course, not.
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Surely it depends on the situation? Please correct me if I am wrong but Sirrush is size 6 (immune to trampling), not undead, has three attacks to Bane Lord's one, more HP, much faster on the battlemap, and you have cheap mages that can cast luck anyway. I would have thought they serve different purposes.
Sirrush is a monster unit while Banelord is a perfect durable commander which with right equipment can easily be turned into horrifying killing machine. Yes, they definitely serve different purposes but I just can't find any for Sirrush :).

Nikelaos August 16th, 2008 09:53 AM

Re: No MA C'tis guides :(
 
Sirrush isn't necesarry, just an example which can work(rather leave better strategies for people to find themselves), there are tons of other powerful summons available national or not which would work especially with some buffs cast by a few shamans or something.


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