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Dedas September 5th, 2008 04:45 PM

Re: Cursed!!
 
If I was to add one thing it would be this: Doom horrors live up to their name.

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 05:20 PM

Re: Cursed!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taqwus (Post 636630)
Well, you do have to be careful. It's not necessarily wise to have your pretenders or other commanders you really want to want to preserve get horror-marked, for instance, since horror marks stick around even after Call God (or immortality or Ritual of Rebirth, for others).

And yes, the top tier is pretty nasty...

Ok, then what do I do with horror-marked SCs? They are too valuable to suicide. For instance I have a Niefel Jarl with "Unequaled Obesity," and awesome equipment--including the Gorgon shield. Shouldn't he be able to handle most things coming his way?

Edi September 5th, 2008 05:35 PM

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The gorgon shield can help him if it gets through the MR 20 of the doom horrors, but just load up the Dom3 DB and take a look at the following guys:

Hunter of Heroes
Maker of Ruins
Eater of Gods (no kidding, especially the two latter forms with true ethereal)
Eater of Dreams
Abomination of Desolation

The Maker of Ruins and the Abomination of Desolation are pretty damned nasty and the other guys aren't exactly what you want to invite for a picnic either. Normal horrors are cute little fluffy-bunnies compared to these fellows.

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 05:44 PM

Re: Cursed!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 636650)
The gorgon shield can help him if it gets through the MR 20 of the doom horrors, but just load up the Dom3 DB and take a look at the following guys:

Hunter of Heroes
Maker of Ruins
Eater of Gods (no kidding, especially the two latter forms with true ethereal)
Eater of Dreams
Abomination of Desolation

The Maker of Ruins and the Abomination of Desolation are pretty damned nasty and the other guys aren't exactly what you want to invite for a picnic either. Normal horrors are cute little fluffy-bunnies compared to these fellows.

But how often will my horror-marked Niefel Jarl SC meet those guys? He's already whopped Rarku, the Hunter of Heroes.

So what ought I to do with horror-marked units as a general advice? Do I suicide all but the most powerful SCs?

Taqwus September 5th, 2008 06:59 PM

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I don't see the point in suiciding them, since death that way isn't guaranteed to be any nicer than death by horror if you're already highly horror-marked. You just need to make sure that they either can cope, or that your plans won't be hampered too much if they find out that they can't. Coping requires high magic resistance to avoid the instant-death attacks, at a very minimum.

Don't forget the Slave to Unreason, either. Interesting fellow, Kurgi.

Epaminondas September 5th, 2008 07:01 PM

Re: Cursed!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taqwus (Post 636676)
I don't see the point in suiciding them, since death that way isn't guaranteed to be any nicer than death by horror if you're already highly horror-marked. You just need to make sure that they either can cope, or that your plans won't be hampered too much if they find out that they can't. Coping requires high magic resistance to avoid the instant-death attacks, at a very minimum.

Don't forget the Slave to Unreason, either. Interesting fellow, Kurgi.

I thought someone said horror marks spread to other units? How do you generally avoid getting horror marked anyways?

Zeldor September 5th, 2008 07:11 PM

Re: Cursed!!
 
Edi:

I remember when my Treelord once charmed Abomination of Desolation :)

Edi September 6th, 2008 08:06 AM

Re: Cursed!!
 
Horror marks don't spread. Some specific units can spread diseases to other units, but they have a special icon that tell you that. If you have sites in a province that horrormark units, then you can get random horrormarks.

Taqwus September 8th, 2008 05:28 PM

Re: Cursed!!
 
There's also 'Horror Seed', a nasty ritual which causes the victim to be a contagious horror-marker, essentially. And the victims sprout lesser horrors if and when they die in battle, if memory serves. I don't recall if anybody's tested the frequency of horror-marking.

But generally speaking, unless you're sitting around in the Vale of Infinite Horror, carrying horror-marking equipment, facing astral mages who use Horror Mark or Astral Geyser, get hit by a horror sent by somebody else (horrors tend to have Astral Hooks which horror-mark you; also, non-blood forging or rituals during Astral Corruption), or cast spells which horror-mark the caster (Hell Power comes to mind)... they're not spontaneous.

Don't sit in the Vale wielding Magebane, a Robe of the Archmage, the Boots of the Planes, the Forbidden Light and the Gift of Kurgi unless you enjoy making very otherworldly and violent acquaintances.

JaghataiKhan September 19th, 2008 05:25 PM

Re: Cursed!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taqwus (Post 637280)
There's also 'Horror Seed', a nasty ritual which causes the victim to be a contagious horror-marker, essentially. And the victims sprout lesser horrors if and when they die in battle, if memory serves. I don't recall if anybody's tested the frequency of horror-marking.

But generally speaking, unless you're sitting around in the Vale of Infinite Horror, carrying horror-marking equipment, facing astral mages who use Horror Mark or Astral Geyser, get hit by a horror sent by somebody else (horrors tend to have Astral Hooks which horror-mark you; also, non-blood forging or rituals during Astral Corruption), or cast spells which horror-mark the caster (Hell Power comes to mind)... they're not spontaneous.

Don't sit in the Vale wielding Magebane, a Robe of the Archmage, the Boots of the Planes, the Forbidden Light and the Gift of Kurgi unless you enjoy making very otherworldly and violent acquaintances.

What are all these items and places? Can I read the game content in some library, Dominionapedia?


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