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Endoperez October 20th, 2008 06:00 AM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 646891)
I will try to be as polite as I can.

You didn't try hard enough.
:rant2:
It's been over two weeks, the thread was just bumped, Valis just got some positive comments on his maps, and you decided to be a prick and ensure he doesn't come back and change his attitude.


I liked the idea behind his maps. I didn't like the maps themselves (I didn't even download them), because they lacked polishing and the source images didn't look like they'd work well as maps, but the idea could have been great. I could accept conquering the world that's in fact in the backs of gigantic turtles, if the map had good terrain selection, outlines for the provinces and interesting province connections. The algae of that picture could work as forests, the rocks in the bottom would be mountains or caves, and if the map wrapped on east-west direction it could be made to work. It'd be a 45-or-so land-province map with several seas, good for games without sea nations even though it favours amphibious and sailing nations.


Quote:

You got negative reactions to your personality, MUCH more than your maps.

You're not an artist, you're just someone with an inability to handle criticism. Ballbarian didn't tell you to "manipulate people", all he basically said was that people would be nicer if you weren't such a prick.

I will continue to look forward to your understanding of mapmaking to improve, as well as your personality.

<3
The quote above is just a fragment of what you wrote. This fragment would've been quite enough, TWO WEEKS AGO, when the discussion was actually relevant! :rant:

If you can't read your own words and say "if that was someone else I'd think he was a jerk", then that makes you a hypocrite. (Even if you didn't start it.)

Singularity24601 October 20th, 2008 06:00 AM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 643312)
I think there's more scope for maps which do interesting things with water provinces - deep trenches and coral reefs and underwater caves for instance.

Here here. I'm currently making Earth-based maps by combining satellite photos with topographic and bathymetric data (estimated ~2000 provinces for the whole planet, but I plan to release smaller sections separately). Researching and interpreting ancient names of all the world's provinces, bays, gulfs, straits, etc, is slow though manageable, but I've found relatively little information on the names of Earth's underwater terrain features. Sure I've got the main trenches, ridges and basins, but anyone know where I can find more detailed resources such as this example?

innerpattern October 20th, 2008 06:17 AM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
I completely regret bumping this thread now... there is a reason I said, "but that is the past this is now..."

I was hoping cooler, and more logical heads would prevail :doh:

JimMorrison October 20th, 2008 05:26 PM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
My apologies, Endo.

I wander in and out of here, and this was when I saw this (no blame on you innerpattern, these things happen).

I was shocked by the first post in this thread, so I read the other threads, and was more shocked. The OP really got under my skin, and I admit, I was overly profuse in my reaction, and probably should have resisted the urge to post.

Unfortunately, this falls under the category of "reasons we wanted to keep our editing privileges". That is to say, I am confident that I've not broken any forum rules, however I was rather harsh, and if I could, I'd atone for lashing out, by reducing the volume of my voice.

Unfortunately, it gets to stay there. I meant it, but I should have gathered more self control. (And I appreciate the irony Endo, but I am full well aware that I can be quite the prick when something hits me wrong, and I knew I wasn't exactly being cordial here. I just haven't mastered the art of being lovably prickly, like Aezeal - I'm generally likable when I'm nice, but not at all when I'm mean. Doesn't stop me from being mean now and then, I guess I am just crazy like that.)

Aezeal October 21st, 2008 03:28 PM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
It's OK jim, as you might have seen others had the same feeling.. but we also hoped that he'd learned something of the various replies he'd gotten so your sort of late reply was well... to late :D

doesn't mean you are wrong though :D

Lingchih October 21st, 2008 10:29 PM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
I personally don't care for the maps, but I'm not going to bag on Aezeal. I've played MP with him, and he's a good enough guy.

Edratman October 22nd, 2008 06:14 AM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
Good Grief!!!

The vast majority of us are hoping, no make that praying, that this thread falls off the the first page to the netherworld of "other pages". For the third day in a row it's been the top post in the forum.

HINT, HINT.

Aezeal October 22nd, 2008 03:02 PM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
who was bagging on me btw? Lingchicks message leaves me a bit confused since I didn't know this thread was about me.

Making the thread be about me would seriously improve it's quality though. :D

Sombre October 22nd, 2008 07:20 PM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
God I hate Aezeal.

Aezeal October 23rd, 2008 03:22 PM

Re: 2 New maps: Otherland and Spheres
 
Did someone just say "Aezeal I hate Aezeal" :D

seems the thread is about me anyway, last post probably falls under "bagging Aezeal"... so Lingchih seems to be able to see in the future. /me is impressed.

Of course Sombre is allowed his feelings... no matter how strange they are.


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