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Endoperez November 5th, 2008 02:25 AM
Re: Thugging Out Vampire Counts? (LA Ulm)
 
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 650405)
Or give them a cheap bow (xbows work best, isn't Piercer one shot every 3 rounds?).
I think Piercer is a crossbow, so 2 rounds. Vision's Foe is an arbalest and fires every 3 rounds.

The masters shouldn't care about that, though, because if they're scripted to "fire" they won't cast on the in-between turns.

In other words, GENIUS! Why didn't I think of that!

JimMorrison November 5th, 2008 04:08 AM
Re: Thugging Out Vampire Counts? (LA Ulm)
 
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Originally Posted by Endoperez (Post 650440)
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 650405)
Or give them a cheap bow (xbows work best, isn't Piercer one shot every 3 rounds?).
I think Piercer is a crossbow, so 2 rounds. Vision's Foe is an arbalest and fires every 3 rounds.

The masters shouldn't care about that, though, because if they're scripted to "fire" they won't cast on the in-between turns.

In other words, GENIUS! Why didn't I think of that!

Ah right, I always get Piercer and Vision's Foe mixed up. And they do care about that, because with a regular crossbow, you are getting 24 rounds of missile fire before your buffing mage races into melee, but with an arbalest, you gain 36 rounds for your melee to win the fight, and avoid that fate. The extra 12 rounds is a huge buffer.

Baalz November 5th, 2008 10:50 AM
Re: Thugging Out Vampire Counts? (LA Ulm)
 
Check out my guide to Sauromatia, I talk a bit about vampires and much of it is applicable to the cheaper vampire counts.

WraithLord November 5th, 2008 11:40 AM
Re: Thugging Out Vampire Counts? (LA Ulm)
 
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 650460)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Endoperez (Post 650440)
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 650405)
Or give them a cheap bow (xbows work best, isn't Piercer one shot every 3 rounds?).
I think Piercer is a crossbow, so 2 rounds. Vision's Foe is an arbalest and fires every 3 rounds.

The masters shouldn't care about that, though, because if they're scripted to "fire" they won't cast on the in-between turns.

In other words, GENIUS! Why didn't I think of that!

Ah right, I always get Piercer and Vision's Foe mixed up. And they do care about that, because with a regular crossbow, you are getting 24 rounds of missile fire before your buffing mage races into melee, but with an arbalest, you gain 36 rounds for your melee to win the fight, and avoid that fate. The extra 12 rounds is a huge buffer.
Very neat idea. Have you actually used it in MP or just in SP?

JimMorrison November 5th, 2008 03:05 PM
Re: Thugging Out Vampire Counts? (LA Ulm)
 
Personally, I'm not altogether fond of reverse or linebacker communions..... Though I do have a strategy for someone that I really should try one of these times. ;)

But, when I want a mage to deliver a couple of spells, and then stay out of trouble, a crossbow or arbalest is what I look for.


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