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JimMorrison December 4th, 2008 02:39 PM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
A9 Blessing - Charge Body?

N9 Blessing - Poison Weapons

B9 Blessing - Additional Attack : Bite - 12 NSA AP, +1Att, -1Def


Was toying with suggesting Poison Weapons for the B9, or maybe even Partial Lifedrain. :p Don't think that'll fly any higher than Blood Vengeance though. ;)

Wrana December 4th, 2008 06:36 PM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
An enhance-precision effect for high Air bless looks promising. Charge body isn't bad also, but such an effect is niche and the niche is quite different from missile-protection one which is present. Another alternative could be some damage enhancement for missile weapons only.
As for Nature I disagree with JimMorrison: there MUST be a bless which makes sacred units berserk!

rdonj December 4th, 2008 07:45 PM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
Personally I kind of like the air shield bless, I don't think it's nearly as niche as some people do. Also, I still think the idea of a precision bless is too good for sacred mages and not useful enough to sacred troops. With a precision bless you would see lots of E/A blessed mages raining down highly accurate destruction and you would pay for it. Depending on what the other bless effect was on air you could also have fairly solid melee sacreds with such a bless (especially if it kept the air shield around).

And I don't see how a charge body bless is that niche, at least if you changed the shock resistance to work like the air shield bless currently does. Because it would be pretty useful of your sacreds to die and do armor negating damage to an enemy thug/sc. Even without the shock resist though it would be good for low armor/prot/survivability sacreds to ruin someone's day. For example, something like a battle vestal or jaguar warrior with w9/a9. This would work best if they kept the air shield bless though.

What if berserk was moved to blood instead of nature, and nature got something like 25% resist all elements? Or mr- (or maybe str...) negatable tangle vines when attacked in melee? :) I don't know about the air bless, I'm reasonably happy with it personally. Though more for air shield than shock resist. Maybe it wouldn't be too bad if the 9 bless gave a minor mirror image?

JimMorrison December 4th, 2008 08:59 PM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdonj (Post 657370)
...Maybe it wouldn't be too bad if the 9 bless gave a minor mirror image?

Ohhh, I like that one too.

And I kind of thought that Berserk might work well on the B9, but I had to go with the fun Bite attack. BLOOD! :p

Dectilon December 4th, 2008 09:12 PM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
Wouldn't Mirror Image be too strong? (And a serious blow to game performance? :D) Air and Blood are pretty powerful schools, and air shield is probably pretty good to have in LA games. I mean, blessed armored troops immune to crossbow fire? That's pretty near :)

JimMorrison December 4th, 2008 09:29 PM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
Mirror Image would be slightly more effective than Twist Fate in melee, and ineffective against missiles or spells. I think that implies it would actually be an excellent companion to Air Shield, and would make A9/S9 an interesting choice for sheer staying power.

rdonj December 4th, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
If I'm not mistaken, vans, tir na n'og, eriu etc all have mirror image from glamour, so it wouldn't be any worse than fighting them.

Tifone December 5th, 2008 06:12 AM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
I think glamour is one thing and mirror image another, but maybe I'm wrong? :)

(If so, Mirror imaged twisted fated glamoured vans = :eek: )

Dectilon December 5th, 2008 08:34 AM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdonj (Post 657408)
If I'm not mistaken, vans, tir na n'og, eriu etc all have mirror image from glamour, so it wouldn't be any worse than fighting them.

*Fights som Vanir*

*Loses badly*

Your point being? : D

mivayan December 5th, 2008 11:29 AM

Re: proposed death curse change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdonj (Post 657370)
Even without the shock resist though it would be good for low armor/prot/survivability sacreds to ruin someone's day. For example, something like a battle vestal or jaguar warrior with w9/a9. This would work best if they kept the air shield bless though.

Charge body without shock resistance is FUNNY. Suicide-bless ftw! And yes, would restrict the equipment choices of enemy thugs.


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