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vfb January 6th, 2009 08:24 PM

Re: Early Arcoscephale - Ephebophilia incarnate
 
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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 664471)
A couple of points from my playing in case they havent been mentioned..

If you only have a few chariots then they can be very effective set far to the flank and told to "Hold and Attack, Rearmost Enemies". And the effectiveness of this can be expanded. Have someone on the far other flank rush to draw the front-line units that direction before the other flank attacks rear.

Archer chariots will actually fire rear if you've got them on "Hold & Attack Rear". This can be useful, normally you can't fire rear.

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With Oreiads you can improve their seduction by gaining a spell such as "Charm". People often overlook the seduction spells because they are hard to use on the battlefield. But when an Oreiad misses seduction a charm can often give them the commander anyway (though only for a short while since he isnt delivered but immediately attacks his province instead). And especially if the seducer chose a female to try and seduce. You will still get the "assassin" effect if both seduce and charm fail but I feel this is worth slipping in between the two...
But seduction checks Morale & MR, and if the unit passed the seduce check because of high MR, he's likely to resist Charm. I think you're better off just letting off a thunderstrike, unless you know your seduction targets are shock resistant. If you got to keep Charmed units from assassination battles, then it might be more worth attempting.

Gandalf Parker January 6th, 2009 10:42 PM

Re: Early Arcoscephale - Ephebophilia incarnate
 
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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 664471)
Archer chariots will actually fire rear if you've got them on "Hold & Attack Rear". This can be useful, normally you can't fire rear.

Very good to know.

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But seduction checks Morale & MR, and if the unit passed the seduce check because of high MR, he's likely to resist Charm. I think you're better off just letting off a thunderstrike, unless you know your seduction targets are shock resistant. If you got to keep Charmed units from assassination battles, then it might be more worth attempting.
Is it the same check? I sure seem to fail seduct more often than charm.

The charmed commander attacks the province. He usually dies. But it gives you a free view of what is left in the province. And if he was the last commander then you get to see him rout all his old troops. Very funny. And in that case (he was the last commander) you get to keep him and his equipment also.

vfb January 7th, 2009 12:06 AM

Re: Early Arcoscephale - Ephebophilia incarnate
 
But if there was any PD in the province, the troops will not route. You can also just send in an attacking scout to probe the defenses.

I guess it would be a good idea to use Charm in the assassination if you are attacking and expect to take the province in the same month, because in that case you will keep the commander.

I think seduce resistance is an easy morale check plus MR check. Charm is just the MR check.

MaxWilson January 7th, 2009 01:08 AM

Re: Early Arcoscephale - Ephebophilia incarnate
 
Remember, Gandalf plays a lot of SP on huge chaotic randomized maps. I bet seducing an indy commander instead of fighting his amazingly tough randomized army is a useful tactic at times. :)

-Max


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